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Why are LGBT youth for some reason the special subgroup of people against whom every concern about rights being tested against? More so than anyone else's righ

Why are LGBT youth for some reason the special subgroup of people against whom every concern about rights being tested against? More so than anyone else's rights? It's like they somehow occupy a privileged position in your mind that everyone has to watch out for this group. Why is that?

blintz 4y ago
I’m gay, so it just hits more personally.
- monksy 4y ago
  I'm not, but I wish it was known that I want to unify in the importance and right to privacy.
Barrin92 4y ago
>against whom every concern about rights being tested against? because they're often the first group these legislations aim at. It's no coincidence that the state in question is Utah, effectively run by the Mormon church with a strong interest in censoring youth access to the internet.
throwawaysleep 4y ago
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- JackMorgan 4y ago
  Downvoted for speaking real facts right here. Many Christians are given a pass to feel contempt for LGBTQ folks, which leads to dehumanization and hate. I had friends growing up in the 90s who were outed and then forcibly disappeared off to realignment camps. I never saw two of them again and lost contact. After the camp didn't work, they were sent away to live with relatives or boarding schools so to not embarrass the parents with the gay. The comment above isn't hyperbole, it's what really happens. I grew up in terror of my close LGBTQ friends ever getting outed, because I knew we'd never see them again. We all did everything we could to help them keep their cover. We'd never even mention it, we all just knew, and would fabricate stories that made them appear straight. And keep in mind, there is no evidence that conversion therapy has any success rate. However, it is well known to increase suicide rate by 2.5x. The people who run these groups know they don't work, but do it anyway. There's a saying that sums this up perfectly, "the cruelty is the point".
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > They are the targets of one of the largest hate groups in North America. Christians. “Christians” is overly broad here, though, yes, its a large subset of Christians. (Its a particularly divisive issue among Christians, both between denominations and in some cases – e.g., the Catholic Church – within them.)
- dang 4y ago
  Could you please stop posting ideological battle comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly, and we've already asked you not to. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
WeylandYutani 4y ago
As a European my concern is actually for Muslim girls. Every year a few of them end up honour killed. So no it's not just the gays who have to fear their parents.
dragonwriter 4y ago
> Why are LGBT youth for some reason the special subgroup of people against whom every concern about rights being tested against? They aren’t. But they are a group particularly targeted right now, and targeted by legislation, and targeted by the same religious-social-political faction pushing this legislation even if this particular piece of legislation doesn’t overtly target them, so…its reasonably to pay particular attention to how this legislation affects them.

blintz 4y ago

I’m gay, so it just hits more personally.

monksy 4y ago
I'm not, but I wish it was known that I want to unify in the importance and right to privacy.

Barrin92 4y ago

>against whom every concern about rights being tested against? because they're often the first group these legislations aim at. It's no coincidence that the state in question is Utah, effectively run by the Mormon church with a strong interest in censoring youth access to the internet.

throwawaysleep 4y ago

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JackMorgan 4y ago
Downvoted for speaking real facts right here. Many Christians are given a pass to feel contempt for LGBTQ folks, which leads to dehumanization and hate. I had friends growing up in the 90s who were outed and then forcibly disappeared off to realignment camps. I never saw two of them again and lost contact. After the camp didn't work, they were sent away to live with relatives or boarding schools so to not embarrass the parents with the gay. The comment above isn't hyperbole, it's what really happens. I grew up in terror of my close LGBTQ friends ever getting outed, because I knew we'd never see them again. We all did everything we could to help them keep their cover. We'd never even mention it, we all just knew, and would fabricate stories that made them appear straight. And keep in mind, there is no evidence that conversion therapy has any success rate. However, it is well known to increase suicide rate by 2.5x. The people who run these groups know they don't work, but do it anyway. There's a saying that sums this up perfectly, "the cruelty is the point".
dragonwriter 4y ago
> They are the targets of one of the largest hate groups in North America. Christians. “Christians” is overly broad here, though, yes, its a large subset of Christians. (Its a particularly divisive issue among Christians, both between denominations and in some cases – e.g., the Catholic Church – within them.)
dang 4y ago
Could you please stop posting ideological battle comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly, and we've already asked you not to. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

WeylandYutani 4y ago

As a European my concern is actually for Muslim girls. Every year a few of them end up honour killed. So no it's not just the gays who have to fear their parents.

dragonwriter 4y ago

> Why are LGBT youth for some reason the special subgroup of people against whom every concern about rights being tested against? They aren’t. But they are a group particularly targeted right now, and targeted by legislation, and targeted by the same religious-social-political faction pushing this legislation even if this particular piece of legislation doesn’t overtly target them, so…its reasonably to pay particular attention to how this legislation affects them.