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> it puts the burden of enforcement on tech platforms rather than the kids' parents What else do you expect? When tech companies make phones secure enough for
by ars 4y ago
> it puts the burden of enforcement on tech platforms rather than the kids' parents
What else do you expect? When tech companies make phones secure enough for the NSA, every app has passwords, and most apps have disappearing messages, how exactly do you expect parents to monitor what their kids are doing?
All the "parental monitoring" apps do is check how much time kids are using the phone. They give zero info on what the kids are actually doing.
So tell me, you want to put the onus on the parents? OK, then require any app used by kids to make all messages available to parents, and forbid disappearing messages.
You don't want to do that? Well, then don't say: "parents you watch them".
You can't simultaneously make something someone else's responsibility, and also make it impossible for them to do it.
- MarkSweep 4y agoI’m not really sure if I disagree with you, but in the past we’re parents really able to see everything their children were doing? Like telephones did not record conversations, they were effectively “disappearing messages”. I guess the argument would be technology enables children to do secret stuff without any of the obvious signs, like sneaking out in the middle of the night?
- ars 4y agoTelephones did not record, but they did have a log of incoming and outgoing numbers. So it was possible to check if a child was suddenly talking to someone new. > I guess the argument would be technology enables children to do secret stuff without any of the obvious signs, like sneaking out in the middle of the night? Yes, it was rather obvious when a teen was behaving secretive, or there were middle of the night calls. Privacy is important, but if your teen was suddenly displaying secretive behavior you could tell.
- watwut 4y agoOf course they were not able to see everything kids do. They were not able to track kids movements via app either. Parents have huge amount of control that was impossible in the past now. They also lost some control, if you lived in ideologically segregated community, kids had no way to learn about ideas from outside. That was destroyed by internet. Your Utah Mormon kid can read pre LBGT materials now.
- boolemancer 4y agoYou don't have to give your kids a phone...
- kxrm 4y agoThis, I think it would far more realistic to ban the type of devices a child can purchase or own then push this burden to "social media companies" on the internet.
- ars 4y agoYes you do. You can't live in the modern world without a phone. Try it if you don't believe me. You can't even ride the bus without a phone because bus stops no longer display schedules and routes. Want to go trampoline jumping? It's impossible without a phone because they want you to sign a waver in advance using your phone. Pay Phones are no longer a thing. The "phone behind the counter" in restaurants and shops is no longer a thing. Even grade school children are staring to have trouble navigating the world without a phone.
- wincy 4y agoWe got our six year old daughter an Apple Watch with cell service. I think that’s allowed her a lot of freedom since she can walk to her friends house without crazy people calling CPS on us (totally happened before). She just met another girl with the same watch and now they are best friends.
- throwaway22032 4y agoOkay? The bus stops near me growing up didn't have signs on them either. We just knew the timetable, or went and waited for it.
- BeFlatXIII 4y agoThat's all fine for 12-year-olds but becomes absurd authoritarianism for high schoolers.