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Ah I see, they released Milvus 2.0 which is similar to Pinecone. What are the differences?

by m1117 4y ago

gk1 4y ago
Biggest difference is Milvus is self-hosted (manage your own infra) while Pinecone is a managed service. There are other differences but that’s often a driving factor. We (Pinecone) tend to attract customers who want to start, ship, and scale quickly and reliably without worrying about infra and ops overhead. https://www.pinecone.io https://www.pinecone.io
- m1117 4y ago
  I think this update introduces Milvus 2.0, "Managed Milvus", which seems to be not self-hosted, but in-cloud managed. You can create account and see that it's similar to Pinecone.
  - fzliu 4y ago
    Yup! Zilliz Cloud (managed Milvus) provides free credits for you to get started with a full-service (no throttling or other limitations) PoC as well.
fzliu 4y ago
Milvus is completely open source (https://github.com/milvus-io/milvus https://github.com/milvus-io/milvus) and supports a variety of index types (https://milvus.io/docs/overview.md#Index-types https://milvus.io/docs/overview.md#Index-types) and support various consistency levels, scalar/metadata filtering, and time travel. We started working on Milvus back in 2018, with 2.0 being released in January 2022 (https://github.com/milvus-io/milvus/releases/tag/v2.0.0 https://github.com/milvus-io/milvus/releases/tag/v2.0.0). For those interested, here's a comparison with other open source vector databases: https://zilliz.com/comparison https://zilliz.com/comparison. For those who don't want to be burdened with installing and maintaining a local database, there's a managed service available as well: https://zilliz.com/cloud https://zilliz.com/cloud.
- m1117 4y ago
  Thanks! BTW it only compares open-sourced databases, and there's no Pinecone in it, which is a very popular cloud-managed option. Would be cool if you could benchmark/compare it.
- kacperlukawski 4y ago
  I'm affiliated with Qdrant and was quite surprised to see us listed in your comparisons with some false statements. If you claim to be the only database with billion-scale vector support, it would be great to make your benchmarks public, as we did: https://qdrant.tech/benchmarks/ https://qdrant.tech/benchmarks/ Btw, Milvus is described in your comparisons as "a fully open source and independent project", while Weaviate and Qdrant, in contrary, are "maintained by a single commercial company offering a cloud version". Why then the suggested way in the Milvus Quick Start on github is to use Zilliz Cloud?
  - redskyluan 4y ago
    would you please update the milvus score in your benchmark with the latest milvus, thanks

Ah I see, they released Milvus 2.0 which is similar to Pinecone. What are the differences?

by m1117 4y ago

Ah I see, they released Milvus 2.0 which is similar to Pinecone. What are the differences?

gk1 4y ago

Biggest difference is Milvus is self-hosted (manage your own infra) while Pinecone is a managed service. There are other differences but that’s often a driving factor. We (Pinecone) tend to attract customers who want to start, ship, and scale quickly and reliably without worrying about infra and ops overhead. https://www.pinecone.io https://www.pinecone.io

m1117 4y ago
I think this update introduces Milvus 2.0, "Managed Milvus", which seems to be not self-hosted, but in-cloud managed. You can create account and see that it's similar to Pinecone.
- fzliu 4y ago
  Yup! Zilliz Cloud (managed Milvus) provides free credits for you to get started with a full-service (no throttling or other limitations) PoC as well.

fzliu 4y ago

Milvus is completely open source (https://github.com/milvus-io/milvus https://github.com/milvus-io/milvus) and supports a variety of index types (https://milvus.io/docs/overview.md#Index-types https://milvus.io/docs/overview.md#Index-types) and support various consistency levels, scalar/metadata filtering, and time travel. We started working on Milvus back in 2018, with 2.0 being released in January 2022 (https://github.com/milvus-io/milvus/releases/tag/v2.0.0 https://github.com/milvus-io/milvus/releases/tag/v2.0.0). For those interested, here's a comparison with other open source vector databases: https://zilliz.com/comparison https://zilliz.com/comparison. For those who don't want to be burdened with installing and maintaining a local database, there's a managed service available as well: https://zilliz.com/cloud https://zilliz.com/cloud.

m1117 4y ago
Thanks! BTW it only compares open-sourced databases, and there's no Pinecone in it, which is a very popular cloud-managed option. Would be cool if you could benchmark/compare it.
kacperlukawski 4y ago
I'm affiliated with Qdrant and was quite surprised to see us listed in your comparisons with some false statements. If you claim to be the only database with billion-scale vector support, it would be great to make your benchmarks public, as we did: https://qdrant.tech/benchmarks/ https://qdrant.tech/benchmarks/ Btw, Milvus is described in your comparisons as "a fully open source and independent project", while Weaviate and Qdrant, in contrary, are "maintained by a single commercial company offering a cloud version". Why then the suggested way in the Milvus Quick Start on github is to use Zilliz Cloud?
- redskyluan 4y ago
  would you please update the milvus score in your benchmark with the latest milvus, thanks