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This isn't a vaccine, but there are nasal vaccines in clinical trial (I think you can already them in India). I suspect that most anivaxxers wouldn't have a pro

This isn't a vaccine, but there are nasal vaccines in clinical trial (I think you can already them in India). I suspect that most anivaxxers wouldn't have a problem with this nasal spray because it isn't a vaccine... but I also suspect that most of them will have objections to nasal vaccines because... they're vaccines.

dukeofdoom 4y ago
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- blueyoda 4y ago
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  - themitigating 4y ago
    It's obvious that if someone is called an "anti vaxxer" in the last two years It's referring to being against the Covid vaccine.
    - blueyoda 4y ago
      The covid jab is not the only "vaccine" that exists. This is why that term is misleading. It lumps people skeptical about one vaccine into the same category as those who are against all vaccines (which is an absurd position)
      - themitigating 4y ago
        Being against any vacccine deemed safe by the majority of experts in a field is the same as being against all of them.
        blueyoda 4y ago
        I don't know many people who are "against" the COVID vaccine. Most I have spoken with agree that those who are at most risk from the disease should take it. They are not concerned with the decisions others make and have never called for the vaccine to be "banned". However, they have declined it for themselves. Hence I would say "Covid-vaxx-decliner" is a more accurate term. Also, would you say that religions that prohibit a certain meat (e.g. pork for Muslims) are "anti-meat"? If I don't like tuna but like haddock, am I anti-fish?
- robertoandred 4y ago
  “Waiting to see if it actually works” is called clinical trials. It worked great.
  - SV_BubbleTime 4y ago
    Any 5 year data you can point to?
    - robertoandred 4y ago
      You would’ve preferred waiting until 2026 for a covid vaccine, even though it was clear that it worked? That sounds pretty malicious and selfish.
      - blueyoda 4y ago
        Natural immunity has been shown to be at least as good if not superior to the vaccine, as shown in peer-reviewed research published in the Lancet. So following science is malicious and selfish? Likewise, "CDC study finds about 78% of people hospitalized for Covid were overweight or obese" (source: NBC). So 78% of the people who are overwhelming our healthcare system are people who eat too much. Will you call them malicious and selfish as well? Eating less has 0 side effects and is actually beneficial for others as well, as BMI is correlated with COVID transmission (from a study published in Nature). Now who has the media criticized over the past 2 years? The young healthy athlete who is most at risk for myocarditis after vaccination, or the obese person who is responsible for increased transmission and overwhelming the healthcare system?
      - SV_BubbleTime 4y ago
        Without any hesitation at all, yes. That is how medical science works. That is why we have the scientific method and testing procedures. Covid was an obese disease. That was hidden from you to such a point you are willing to inject the entire population with unknown and untested substances. This comment isn’t even for you, but others that aren’t so deep in it. This is how effective the media was on them, crazy huh?
- Melingo 4y ago
  Funny enough when I discussed antivaxxer and brought up polio, no one ever corrected me and said thant they are not against vaccines but only against 'untestes'/COVID ones.
unmole 4y ago
> I think you can already them in India While it's been officially launched, hospitals simply aren't procuring them because there is approximately zero demand. As a result, you can't actually get them.

dukeofdoom 4y ago

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blueyoda 4y ago
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- themitigating 4y ago
  It's obvious that if someone is called an "anti vaxxer" in the last two years It's referring to being against the Covid vaccine.
  - blueyoda 4y ago
    The covid jab is not the only "vaccine" that exists. This is why that term is misleading. It lumps people skeptical about one vaccine into the same category as those who are against all vaccines (which is an absurd position)
    - themitigating 4y ago
      Being against any vacccine deemed safe by the majority of experts in a field is the same as being against all of them.
      - blueyoda 4y ago
        I don't know many people who are "against" the COVID vaccine. Most I have spoken with agree that those who are at most risk from the disease should take it. They are not concerned with the decisions others make and have never called for the vaccine to be "banned". However, they have declined it for themselves. Hence I would say "Covid-vaxx-decliner" is a more accurate term. Also, would you say that religions that prohibit a certain meat (e.g. pork for Muslims) are "anti-meat"? If I don't like tuna but like haddock, am I anti-fish?
robertoandred 4y ago
“Waiting to see if it actually works” is called clinical trials. It worked great.
- SV_BubbleTime 4y ago
  Any 5 year data you can point to?
  - robertoandred 4y ago
    You would’ve preferred waiting until 2026 for a covid vaccine, even though it was clear that it worked? That sounds pretty malicious and selfish.
    - blueyoda 4y ago
      Natural immunity has been shown to be at least as good if not superior to the vaccine, as shown in peer-reviewed research published in the Lancet. So following science is malicious and selfish? Likewise, "CDC study finds about 78% of people hospitalized for Covid were overweight or obese" (source: NBC). So 78% of the people who are overwhelming our healthcare system are people who eat too much. Will you call them malicious and selfish as well? Eating less has 0 side effects and is actually beneficial for others as well, as BMI is correlated with COVID transmission (from a study published in Nature). Now who has the media criticized over the past 2 years? The young healthy athlete who is most at risk for myocarditis after vaccination, or the obese person who is responsible for increased transmission and overwhelming the healthcare system?
    - SV_BubbleTime 4y ago
      Without any hesitation at all, yes. That is how medical science works. That is why we have the scientific method and testing procedures. Covid was an obese disease. That was hidden from you to such a point you are willing to inject the entire population with unknown and untested substances. This comment isn’t even for you, but others that aren’t so deep in it. This is how effective the media was on them, crazy huh?
Melingo 4y ago
Funny enough when I discussed antivaxxer and brought up polio, no one ever corrected me and said thant they are not against vaccines but only against 'untestes'/COVID ones.

unmole 4y ago

> I think you can already them in India While it's been officially launched, hospitals simply aren't procuring them because there is approximately zero demand. As a result, you can't actually get them.