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these gpt wrapper apps as a business model are going the way of the dodo, things are moving way too fast

by nyolfen 4y ago

stavros 4y ago
In what way? This seems very useful.
- deleted 4y ago
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- waboremo 4y ago
  Plugins are coming, and wrappers are still having to pay openAI and on top of that their own slice of the pie. Since wrappers aren't really cultivating the information themselves, nothing is stopping you from making your own either, the openAI API isn't a big difficult secret. You can even ask openAI to write your own integration for you! You can probably also ask openAI about the nextjs/tailwind starter repo everyone of these wrappers keep relying on too.
  - _pdp_ 4y ago
    100% agree on the wrappers. Though, keep in mind that even if you can write your own it does not mean you can support it or even keep up with the latest trends / features. Hacking something over the weekend is doable but supporting long term will take countless of hours which can be spent elsewhere.
  - celestialcheese 4y ago
    You overestimate the willingness and ability of the average org to implement and support things like this on their own.
    - waboremo 4y ago
      I do not, I recognize that they care far more about costs and don't mind throwing one developer at problems internally than outsourcing it to a middleman of a middleman who is overcharging just for access to an API that isn't theirs. Reminder, it's going to get easier to implement things. It is going to get easier to support things. Neither of these two reasons are going to be the catalysts they used to be for businesses anymore.
- qingdao99 4y ago
  It's effectively a tiny frontend, doing 0.01% of the work, which is attached to another (highly available) product.
benatkin 4y ago
The usual knowledge about evaluating products applies. If you go to the website of markprompt the people who made it already appear to be accomplished entrepreneurs, having worked on something called Motif, which I hadn't heard of but appears to be legit. They also have a nice website and everything I read makes it sound like they know what they're doing. These don't count for much but they count for something. I haven't investigated them much but I think this should be assessed like any other startup product.
mfester 4y ago
The way it went is: we built this as part of Motif for the past month, and our users loved it. Many asked for a way to add this feature to their existing sites, so we made a standalone platform that streamlines the process, and open sourced it :)

these gpt wrapper apps as a business model are going the way of the dodo, things are moving way too fast

stavros 4y ago

In what way? This seems very useful.

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waboremo 4y ago
Plugins are coming, and wrappers are still having to pay openAI and on top of that their own slice of the pie. Since wrappers aren't really cultivating the information themselves, nothing is stopping you from making your own either, the openAI API isn't a big difficult secret. You can even ask openAI to write your own integration for you! You can probably also ask openAI about the nextjs/tailwind starter repo everyone of these wrappers keep relying on too.
- _pdp_ 4y ago
  100% agree on the wrappers. Though, keep in mind that even if you can write your own it does not mean you can support it or even keep up with the latest trends / features. Hacking something over the weekend is doable but supporting long term will take countless of hours which can be spent elsewhere.
- celestialcheese 4y ago
  You overestimate the willingness and ability of the average org to implement and support things like this on their own.
  - waboremo 4y ago
    I do not, I recognize that they care far more about costs and don't mind throwing one developer at problems internally than outsourcing it to a middleman of a middleman who is overcharging just for access to an API that isn't theirs. Reminder, it's going to get easier to implement things. It is going to get easier to support things. Neither of these two reasons are going to be the catalysts they used to be for businesses anymore.
qingdao99 4y ago
It's effectively a tiny frontend, doing 0.01% of the work, which is attached to another (highly available) product.

benatkin 4y ago

The usual knowledge about evaluating products applies. If you go to the website of markprompt the people who made it already appear to be accomplished entrepreneurs, having worked on something called Motif, which I hadn't heard of but appears to be legit. They also have a nice website and everything I read makes it sound like they know what they're doing. These don't count for much but they count for something. I haven't investigated them much but I think this should be assessed like any other startup product.

mfester 4y ago

The way it went is: we built this as part of Motif for the past month, and our users loved it. Many asked for a way to add this feature to their existing sites, so we made a standalone platform that streamlines the process, and open sourced it :)