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"farmers really don’t like it when they kill off their livestock." You say that like it's shameful for them to feel that way. Pet owners really don't like it

"farmers really don’t like it when they kill off their livestock." You say that like it's shameful for them to feel that way. Pet owners really don't like it when wolves kill off their dogs & cats, either.

taco_philips 4y ago
I don't see anything in what you quoted about how the farmer should be ashamed to feel that way. I didn't read it that way at all.
- sillysaurusx 4y ago
  Yeah. It’s always interesting to see how people fill in the blanks.
- vehementi 4y ago
  It's because the person went out of their way to say that the bad reputation is because of the farmers' feelings, rather than just the fact that wolves kill the livestock. Compare: > He went to jail for hitting her > He went to jail because she didn't like that he hit her This makes it sound like she would or should sometimes like to be hit, rather than being straightforwardly the victim of a crime, or straightforwardly because the person committed a crime
- AlbertCory 4y ago
  You don't? How about "I think they got a bad reputation because farmers really don’t like it when they kill off their livestock." so, "bad reputation" is unfortunate, X caused it, but it's unwarranted to read that as "X is unfortunate"? It seems like a reasonable inference.
pxc 4y ago
> Pet owners really don't like it when wolves kill off their dogs & cats, either. Right. I have some affection for wolves and coyotes because of their resemblance and relatiom to domestic dogs... but I also don't want them near my home any more than they have to be, and I avoid them at parks, because they will 100% kill and eat dogs like mine. They do it all the time.
bcrosby95 4y ago
We have coyotes in the suburb I live in. They will stalk pets, and if you leave them out overnight say good bye to fluffy. The people who have lived here a while pay no nevermind. But new locals always fill nextdoor with coyote sightings. I mean, yeah, you can hear them basically every night.

taco_philips 4y ago

I don't see anything in what you quoted about how the farmer should be ashamed to feel that way. I didn't read it that way at all.

sillysaurusx 4y ago
Yeah. It’s always interesting to see how people fill in the blanks.
vehementi 4y ago
It's because the person went out of their way to say that the bad reputation is because of the farmers' feelings, rather than just the fact that wolves kill the livestock. Compare: > He went to jail for hitting her > He went to jail because she didn't like that he hit her This makes it sound like she would or should sometimes like to be hit, rather than being straightforwardly the victim of a crime, or straightforwardly because the person committed a crime
AlbertCory 4y ago
You don't? How about "I think they got a bad reputation because farmers really don’t like it when they kill off their livestock." so, "bad reputation" is unfortunate, X caused it, but it's unwarranted to read that as "X is unfortunate"? It seems like a reasonable inference.

pxc 4y ago

> Pet owners really don't like it when wolves kill off their dogs & cats, either. Right. I have some affection for wolves and coyotes because of their resemblance and relatiom to domestic dogs... but I also don't want them near my home any more than they have to be, and I avoid them at parks, because they will 100% kill and eat dogs like mine. They do it all the time.

bcrosby95 4y ago

We have coyotes in the suburb I live in. They will stalk pets, and if you leave them out overnight say good bye to fluffy. The people who have lived here a while pay no nevermind. But new locals always fill nextdoor with coyote sightings. I mean, yeah, you can hear them basically every night.