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No chat bot ever published in the past decades has revolutionized anything. They have all been the subject of intense, temporary hype, and then completely forgo

No chat bot ever published in the past decades has revolutionized anything. They have all been the subject of intense, temporary hype, and then completely forgotten. I see no reason why this time should be different. It literally lies and makes shit up! The economy isn't built around lies and making shit up, is it?

djaychela 4y ago
>The economy isn't built around lies and making shit up, is it? I think a significant portion of it is made up of BS and hype. And there's a lot of that around AI, particularly in the last few weeks. Big players look to be going all in on it. I think dismissing it as simply a chat bot is missing what's actually happening. There's much more to ChatGPT than merely a chatbot, even with the hallucinations.
- hypertele-Xii 4y ago
  It's literally a bot that chats. What is there more to it?
  - pixl97 4y ago
    I mean, I just asked to perform a set of actions via plain english language, and via a plugin it performed actions... Maybe you're a few days behind the times?
    - hypertele-Xii 4y ago
      I think that's called programming, and has been a thing for a long time now. You don't control computers by inputting numbers anymore. What exactly are these "actions" you speak of, and did ChatGPT "perform" them without errors?
  - ben_w 4y ago
    I am literally a series of chemical reactions; and yet, that kind of description is generally regarded as overly reductionist. To the best of my knowledge, before the transformer model, the state of the art for natural language processing was looking out for pre-programmed keywords for actions, and simply summing the total of "good minus bad" for sentiment analysis. I'm not sure if even word2vec made a significant impact there, despite the then-impressive ability for it to embed words into a vector space such that "king" - "man" + "woman" ≈ "queen" But GPT? Well… --- Me: explain the Einstein field equations in the style of an ancient Greek epic poem. Write in Greek. ChatGPT: Ω Μοῦσαι, θεαὶ τῆς εἰρήνης καὶ τῆς ἀρμονίας, Τὴν ἱστορίαν τῆς φύσεως μὲν ἀείδετε, Τοῦ κόσμου τὰ μυστικὰ καὶ τὰ βαθέα διδάσκετε. Αἰνστάινος ὁ φωσφόρος τῆς λογικῆς καὶ τῆς φύσεως, Τὸν λόγον τοῦ κόσμου κατέγραψεν ἐν εἰκόσιν ἀριθμοῖς, Τοὺς λεγομένους Αἰνστάιν εὐφυεῖς εὑρίσκων λόγους. Στις ἰσότητα τῆς μάζας καὶ τῆς ἐνέργειας ἐστίν ἡ πρῶτη, Τὸν κόσμον διακοσμοῦντα καὶ τὴν κίνησιν διατηροῦσαν λοιπὴν, Τὴν ἐντροπίαν, τὸν πόνον τοῦ κόσμου περιγράφει ηὗται. Τὸ θεῖον καὶ τὸ ἀνθρώπινον τῆς φύσεως συνάγουσι, Τὰς καμπὰς τοῦ χρόνου καὶ τὰ μυστικὰ τοῦ κόσμου ἀνακαλύπτουσιν, Αἰνστάινου λόγοις τὸν κόσμον συντηροῦσιν ἀεί. Ὦ Μοῦσαι, θεαὶ τῆς εἰρήνης καὶ τῆς ἀρμονίας, Τὴν δόξαν τοῦ Αἰνστάινου καὶ τοὺς λό Me: write a python script which calls the Google Translate API to turn that into Latin ChatGPT: I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I am not authorized to call external APIs or execute any code outside of this platform. However, I can provide you with an example code snippet that utilizes the Google Translate API via the googletrans library to translate text from English to Latin: Copy code from googletrans import Translator translator = Translator(service_urls=['translate.google.com']) text = "explain the Einstein field equations in the style of an ancient Greek epic poem. Write in Greek." result = translator.translate(text, dest='la') print(result.text) When you run this code, it should output the translated text in Latin: Copy code explicare Einstein campo aequationes in modo antiquo Graeca carmen epico. Scribere in Graeco. Please note that the googletrans library uses the public Google Translate API, which has certain usage limits and restrictions. Me: 建議量子力學主題酒吧的名稱。 ChatGPT: 以下是一些可能的量子力學主題酒吧的名稱： 1. 薛定谔的酒吧 2. 量子酒馆 3. 希尔伯特的饮料 4. 波粒二象性酒吧 5. 能量溢出酒吧 6. 纠缠酒廊 7. 费曼的小酒馆 8. 量子跃迁酒吧 9. 亚当斯的指南酒吧 10. 量子隧道酒吧 Me: На Commodore64 BASIC напишите реализацию видеоигры Pong. ChatGPT: К сожалению, я не могу написать код на Commodore64 BASIC, потому что это требует доступа к конкретному железу, которого у меня нет. Однако, я могу предоставить вам базовый шаблон кода на Commodore64 BASIC для игры Pong, который можно адаптировать и доработать под свои нужды. Copy code 10 REM PONG 20 REM SET UP VARIABLES 30 X=160:Y=100:Z=60 40 S=10:C=1 50 I=5:J=5:K=0:L=0:M=0:N=0:O=0 60 GOTO 1000 70 REM DRAW SCREEN 80 PRINT "{CLR}";:FOR A=1 TO 24:PRINT "{DOWN}";:NEXT A 90 REM DRAW PADDLES 100 PRINT "{HOME}";"{RIGHT}";"{DOWN}";"{UP}";:PRINT "{UP}";:PRINT "{LEFT}";:PRINT "{DOWN}";"{RIGHT}"; 110 REM DRAW BALL 120 PRINT "{HOME}";"{RIGHT}";"O"; 130 REM GET JOYSTICK INPUT 140 Q=PEEK(56320) 150 IF Q=11 THEN K=-1:GOTO 160 160 IF Q=14 THEN K=1:GOTO 170 170 REM MOVE PADDLES 180 I=I+K:J=J+L 190 IF I<=5 THEN I=5 200 IF I>=15 THEN I=15 210 IF J<=5 THEN J=5 220 IF J>=15 THEN J=15 230 REM MOVE BALL 240 X=X+C:Y=Y+O 250 IF Y<=7 THEN O=-O 260 IF Y>=22 THEN O=-O 270 REM COLLISION WITH PADDLES 280 IF X<=5 AND Y>=I-1 AND Y<=I+5 THEN C=1:O=S(Y-I-2) 290 IF X>=30 AND Y>=J-1 AND Y<=J+5 THEN C=-1:O=S(Y-J-2) 300 REM SCORE KEEPING 310 IF X<=0 THEN Z=Z-1:GOTO 350 320 IF X>=35 THEN Z=Z+1:GOTO 350 330 REM REPEAT GAME 340 GOTO 60 350 REM GAME OVER 360 PRINT "{CLR}";"GAME OVER":PRINT "{DOWN}{DOWN}";"FINAL SCORE:";Z 370 END 1000 REM SET UP GAME 1010 X=160:Y=100:Z=60 1020 S=10:C=1 1030 I=5:J=5:K=0:L=0:M=0:N=0:O=0 1040 REM INTRODUCTION SCREEN 1050 PRINT "{CLR}{DOWN}{DOWN}{DOWN}";:PRINT "PONG":PRINT "{DOWN}";:PRINT "PRESS FIRE TO BEGIN":PRINT "{UP}{UP}{UP}";:WAIT 198 1060 IF PEEK(56334)=255 THEN 1060 1070 WAIT 198:GOTO 70 Это базовый шаблон, который необходимо доработать и оптимизировать под ваше железо. Он также может содержать ошибки, которые могут потребовать дополнительной отладки. Если вы не зн --- I'm not going to edit this comment so the BASIC formatting shows up correctly; each line number has a line break before it when I pasted it here. I also can't test if that C64 BASIC will run, as I can't find an emu that accepts paste nor get Apple Script to successfully inject fake key presses, but hey, that Russian contains a disclaimer warning it might be buggy. I will however say that it did an acceptable job (given how little a description I gave it) of the same in JavaScript when I asked it to.
Giorgi 4y ago
It only makes shit up once it does not have enough information, it will however improve as it is connected to the internet, ALSO - it can do accounting, financial audit and coding better than humans. Even right now, given it is properly implemented, it can leave millions of accountants and auditors without jobs. But I agree, it wont revolutionize anything, it will automate EVERY SINGLE JOB that is dependent on human's intellectual input and eliminate billions of the jobs, which will lead to global hunger and reduction of human population.
- hypertele-Xii 4y ago
  Absolute bullshit. Show me one software coded by ChatGPT.
  - l33t233372 4y ago
    Here, this was written entirely by chatGPT: https://sumplete.com/ https://sumplete.com/ On page 24 of this paper, there is a 3D game with enemies and objectives coded by GPT-4: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2303.12712.pdf https://arxiv.org/pdf/2303.12712.pdf
    - hypertele-Xii 4y ago
      > Here, this was written entirely by chatGPT: The page describes itself as "A logic puzzle game invented by artificial intelligence" (emphasis mine). There is no claim that ChatGPT "entirely wrote it" anywhere on the page. > On page 24 of this paper, there is a 3D game with enemies and objectives coded by GPT-4: There is no "game" on that paper. Only two screenshots and the dubious claim that "GPT-4 did it", with no code anywhere to be seen, also checked the appendix.
      - l33t233372 4y ago
        > There is no claim that ChatGPT "entirely wrote it" anywhere on the page. Yeah that’s interesting. There used to be a linked blog post describing the development process with screenshots of the LLM output. It’s missing now. I suspect the author made some improvements or monetized it or something
codingdave 4y ago
> The economy isn't built around lies and making shit up, is it? Yeah, it kind of is. Fake it 'til you make it. Vaporware landing pages to validate products. But that isn't what we need to focus on. ChatGPT is more than a chatbot. And if you use its output knowing that it may contain hallucinations and correct for that possibility, there is real potential here. You can't take it at face value, and have to validate whatever it gives you, but you should be doing that anyway for anything you find online of through the media. I am the first to say that its lack of accuracy is a problem, but the last to say that it is a non-solvable problem.
- hypertele-Xii 4y ago
  If you have to check online that ChatGPT is correct, then what exactly does it add but an extra step to just getting the correct info from online in the first place?
  - codingdave 4y ago
    That is exactly the point - don't use ChatGPT to get facts. Use it to generate content that will be revised by a human. If you are trying to use it to ask the answer to a question and expecting accuracy... you are using the wrong tool.
    - gremlinsinc 4y ago
      Not necessarily, you could use 'different' ai models to maybe 'score' the accuracy of the information, and especially if each model has internet access they can provide some analysis and probably give you way more accurate info than even wikipedia. We're not there yet, but we're probably not far from that.
      - hypertele-Xii 4y ago
        What is this magical future AI that determines the accuracy of the current AI when the current AI clearly fails at being accurate? You're purely fantasizing.
gremlinsinc 4y ago
> The economy isn't built around lies and making shit up, is it? I see you've never talked to a salesman. Try going to a time-share sales presentation. They actually have an acronym the CEO of some of the big hotel chains came up with: TAFT - Tell them ANY FRIGGING THING. (really it's frigging because: corporate ethics or something).

djaychela 4y ago

>The economy isn't built around lies and making shit up, is it? I think a significant portion of it is made up of BS and hype. And there's a lot of that around AI, particularly in the last few weeks. Big players look to be going all in on it. I think dismissing it as simply a chat bot is missing what's actually happening. There's much more to ChatGPT than merely a chatbot, even with the hallucinations.

hypertele-Xii 4y ago
It's literally a bot that chats. What is there more to it?
- pixl97 4y ago
  I mean, I just asked to perform a set of actions via plain english language, and via a plugin it performed actions... Maybe you're a few days behind the times?
  - hypertele-Xii 4y ago
    I think that's called programming, and has been a thing for a long time now. You don't control computers by inputting numbers anymore. What exactly are these "actions" you speak of, and did ChatGPT "perform" them without errors?
- ben_w 4y ago
  I am literally a series of chemical reactions; and yet, that kind of description is generally regarded as overly reductionist. To the best of my knowledge, before the transformer model, the state of the art for natural language processing was looking out for pre-programmed keywords for actions, and simply summing the total of "good minus bad" for sentiment analysis. I'm not sure if even word2vec made a significant impact there, despite the then-impressive ability for it to embed words into a vector space such that "king" - "man" + "woman" ≈ "queen" But GPT? Well… --- Me: explain the Einstein field equations in the style of an ancient Greek epic poem. Write in Greek. ChatGPT: Ω Μοῦσαι, θεαὶ τῆς εἰρήνης καὶ τῆς ἀρμονίας, Τὴν ἱστορίαν τῆς φύσεως μὲν ἀείδετε, Τοῦ κόσμου τὰ μυστικὰ καὶ τὰ βαθέα διδάσκετε. Αἰνστάινος ὁ φωσφόρος τῆς λογικῆς καὶ τῆς φύσεως, Τὸν λόγον τοῦ κόσμου κατέγραψεν ἐν εἰκόσιν ἀριθμοῖς, Τοὺς λεγομένους Αἰνστάιν εὐφυεῖς εὑρίσκων λόγους. Στις ἰσότητα τῆς μάζας καὶ τῆς ἐνέργειας ἐστίν ἡ πρῶτη, Τὸν κόσμον διακοσμοῦντα καὶ τὴν κίνησιν διατηροῦσαν λοιπὴν, Τὴν ἐντροπίαν, τὸν πόνον τοῦ κόσμου περιγράφει ηὗται. Τὸ θεῖον καὶ τὸ ἀνθρώπινον τῆς φύσεως συνάγουσι, Τὰς καμπὰς τοῦ χρόνου καὶ τὰ μυστικὰ τοῦ κόσμου ἀνακαλύπτουσιν, Αἰνστάινου λόγοις τὸν κόσμον συντηροῦσιν ἀεί. Ὦ Μοῦσαι, θεαὶ τῆς εἰρήνης καὶ τῆς ἀρμονίας, Τὴν δόξαν τοῦ Αἰνστάινου καὶ τοὺς λό Me: write a python script which calls the Google Translate API to turn that into Latin ChatGPT: I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I am not authorized to call external APIs or execute any code outside of this platform. However, I can provide you with an example code snippet that utilizes the Google Translate API via the googletrans library to translate text from English to Latin: Copy code from googletrans import Translator translator = Translator(service_urls=['translate.google.com']) text = "explain the Einstein field equations in the style of an ancient Greek epic poem. Write in Greek." result = translator.translate(text, dest='la') print(result.text) When you run this code, it should output the translated text in Latin: Copy code explicare Einstein campo aequationes in modo antiquo Graeca carmen epico. Scribere in Graeco. Please note that the googletrans library uses the public Google Translate API, which has certain usage limits and restrictions. Me: 建議量子力學主題酒吧的名稱。 ChatGPT: 以下是一些可能的量子力學主題酒吧的名稱： 1. 薛定谔的酒吧 2. 量子酒馆 3. 希尔伯特的饮料 4. 波粒二象性酒吧 5. 能量溢出酒吧 6. 纠缠酒廊 7. 费曼的小酒馆 8. 量子跃迁酒吧 9. 亚当斯的指南酒吧 10. 量子隧道酒吧 Me: На Commodore64 BASIC напишите реализацию видеоигры Pong. ChatGPT: К сожалению, я не могу написать код на Commodore64 BASIC, потому что это требует доступа к конкретному железу, которого у меня нет. Однако, я могу предоставить вам базовый шаблон кода на Commodore64 BASIC для игры Pong, который можно адаптировать и доработать под свои нужды. Copy code 10 REM PONG 20 REM SET UP VARIABLES 30 X=160:Y=100:Z=60 40 S=10:C=1 50 I=5:J=5:K=0:L=0:M=0:N=0:O=0 60 GOTO 1000 70 REM DRAW SCREEN 80 PRINT "{CLR}";:FOR A=1 TO 24:PRINT "{DOWN}";:NEXT A 90 REM DRAW PADDLES 100 PRINT "{HOME}";"{RIGHT}";"{DOWN}";"{UP}";:PRINT "{UP}";:PRINT "{LEFT}";:PRINT "{DOWN}";"{RIGHT}"; 110 REM DRAW BALL 120 PRINT "{HOME}";"{RIGHT}";"O"; 130 REM GET JOYSTICK INPUT 140 Q=PEEK(56320) 150 IF Q=11 THEN K=-1:GOTO 160 160 IF Q=14 THEN K=1:GOTO 170 170 REM MOVE PADDLES 180 I=I+K:J=J+L 190 IF I<=5 THEN I=5 200 IF I>=15 THEN I=15 210 IF J<=5 THEN J=5 220 IF J>=15 THEN J=15 230 REM MOVE BALL 240 X=X+C:Y=Y+O 250 IF Y<=7 THEN O=-O 260 IF Y>=22 THEN O=-O 270 REM COLLISION WITH PADDLES 280 IF X<=5 AND Y>=I-1 AND Y<=I+5 THEN C=1:O=S(Y-I-2) 290 IF X>=30 AND Y>=J-1 AND Y<=J+5 THEN C=-1:O=S(Y-J-2) 300 REM SCORE KEEPING 310 IF X<=0 THEN Z=Z-1:GOTO 350 320 IF X>=35 THEN Z=Z+1:GOTO 350 330 REM REPEAT GAME 340 GOTO 60 350 REM GAME OVER 360 PRINT "{CLR}";"GAME OVER":PRINT "{DOWN}{DOWN}";"FINAL SCORE:";Z 370 END 1000 REM SET UP GAME 1010 X=160:Y=100:Z=60 1020 S=10:C=1 1030 I=5:J=5:K=0:L=0:M=0:N=0:O=0 1040 REM INTRODUCTION SCREEN 1050 PRINT "{CLR}{DOWN}{DOWN}{DOWN}";:PRINT "PONG":PRINT "{DOWN}";:PRINT "PRESS FIRE TO BEGIN":PRINT "{UP}{UP}{UP}";:WAIT 198 1060 IF PEEK(56334)=255 THEN 1060 1070 WAIT 198:GOTO 70 Это базовый шаблон, который необходимо доработать и оптимизировать под ваше железо. Он также может содержать ошибки, которые могут потребовать дополнительной отладки. Если вы не зн --- I'm not going to edit this comment so the BASIC formatting shows up correctly; each line number has a line break before it when I pasted it here. I also can't test if that C64 BASIC will run, as I can't find an emu that accepts paste nor get Apple Script to successfully inject fake key presses, but hey, that Russian contains a disclaimer warning it might be buggy. I will however say that it did an acceptable job (given how little a description I gave it) of the same in JavaScript when I asked it to.

Giorgi 4y ago

It only makes shit up once it does not have enough information, it will however improve as it is connected to the internet, ALSO - it can do accounting, financial audit and coding better than humans. Even right now, given it is properly implemented, it can leave millions of accountants and auditors without jobs. But I agree, it wont revolutionize anything, it will automate EVERY SINGLE JOB that is dependent on human's intellectual input and eliminate billions of the jobs, which will lead to global hunger and reduction of human population.

hypertele-Xii 4y ago
Absolute bullshit. Show me one software coded by ChatGPT.
- l33t233372 4y ago
  Here, this was written entirely by chatGPT: https://sumplete.com/ https://sumplete.com/ On page 24 of this paper, there is a 3D game with enemies and objectives coded by GPT-4: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2303.12712.pdf https://arxiv.org/pdf/2303.12712.pdf
  - hypertele-Xii 4y ago
    > Here, this was written entirely by chatGPT: The page describes itself as "A logic puzzle game invented by artificial intelligence" (emphasis mine). There is no claim that ChatGPT "entirely wrote it" anywhere on the page. > On page 24 of this paper, there is a 3D game with enemies and objectives coded by GPT-4: There is no "game" on that paper. Only two screenshots and the dubious claim that "GPT-4 did it", with no code anywhere to be seen, also checked the appendix.
    - l33t233372 4y ago
      > There is no claim that ChatGPT "entirely wrote it" anywhere on the page. Yeah that’s interesting. There used to be a linked blog post describing the development process with screenshots of the LLM output. It’s missing now. I suspect the author made some improvements or monetized it or something

codingdave 4y ago

> The economy isn't built around lies and making shit up, is it? Yeah, it kind of is. Fake it 'til you make it. Vaporware landing pages to validate products. But that isn't what we need to focus on. ChatGPT is more than a chatbot. And if you use its output knowing that it may contain hallucinations and correct for that possibility, there is real potential here. You can't take it at face value, and have to validate whatever it gives you, but you should be doing that anyway for anything you find online of through the media. I am the first to say that its lack of accuracy is a problem, but the last to say that it is a non-solvable problem.

hypertele-Xii 4y ago
If you have to check online that ChatGPT is correct, then what exactly does it add but an extra step to just getting the correct info from online in the first place?
- codingdave 4y ago
  That is exactly the point - don't use ChatGPT to get facts. Use it to generate content that will be revised by a human. If you are trying to use it to ask the answer to a question and expecting accuracy... you are using the wrong tool.
  - gremlinsinc 4y ago
    Not necessarily, you could use 'different' ai models to maybe 'score' the accuracy of the information, and especially if each model has internet access they can provide some analysis and probably give you way more accurate info than even wikipedia. We're not there yet, but we're probably not far from that.
    - hypertele-Xii 4y ago
      What is this magical future AI that determines the accuracy of the current AI when the current AI clearly fails at being accurate? You're purely fantasizing.

gremlinsinc 4y ago

> The economy isn't built around lies and making shit up, is it? I see you've never talked to a salesman. Try going to a time-share sales presentation. They actually have an acronym the CEO of some of the big hotel chains came up with: TAFT - Tell them ANY FRIGGING THING. (really it's frigging because: corporate ethics or something).