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Apple has no present experience in building big servers (they had experience at one point, but all those people surely moved on) Mac Minis don't count Sure, t

Apple has no present experience in building big servers (they had experience at one point, but all those people surely moved on) Mac Minis don't count Sure, they are super rich and could just buy their way into the space...but so far they are really far behind in all things AI with Siri being a punchline at this point if anything, Apple proves that money alone isn't enough

newsclues 4y ago
I assumed their server experience is still working in the iCloud division.
capableweb 4y ago
I'm no Apple fan-boy at all (closer to the opposite) so it pains me a bit to say, but they have a proven track-record of having zero experience in something, then releasing something really good in that industry. The iPhone was their first phone, and it really kicked in the smartphone race into high gear. Same for the Apple Silicon processor. And those are just two relatively recent examples.
- microtonal 4y ago
  The iPhone had a lot of prehistory in Apple, from Newton to iPod. Apple Silicon alo has a long history, starting with the humble beginnings as the Apple A4 in 2010, which relied on Samsung's Hummingbird for the CPU and PowerVR for the GPU (plus they acquired PA Semi in 2008). So both are not very good examples, because they build up experience over long periods.
  - capableweb 4y ago
    > So both are not very good examples, because they build up experience over long periods. They are examples of something they could similarly do for the Apple Neural Engine but in a bigger scale in the future. They have experience deploying it in a smaller scale/different versions, they would just have to apply it in bigger scale in order to be able to compete with NVIDIA.
- rchiang 4y ago
  To be fair, Apple released their iPhone after building iPods for 6 years. So, it's not like they had zero experience with handheld devices at the time. Also, while Apple did create their first chip (at least of their current families) in 2007, they did acquire 150 or so engineers when they bought PA Semi in 2008. So, that gave them a leg up compared to building a chip team completely from scratch.
  - simonh 4y ago
    Right, the fact they have a habit of releasing industry redefining first products in a category is they do the hard work to make it happen. It’s not by accident.
abudabi123 4y ago
Apple's money can buy relationships to line up the ducks in a row but true genius is willing to work for $1 a year and be rewarded for the upside when it comes, see SJ.

newsclues 4y ago

I assumed their server experience is still working in the iCloud division.

capableweb 4y ago

I'm no Apple fan-boy at all (closer to the opposite) so it pains me a bit to say, but they have a proven track-record of having zero experience in something, then releasing something really good in that industry. The iPhone was their first phone, and it really kicked in the smartphone race into high gear. Same for the Apple Silicon processor. And those are just two relatively recent examples.

microtonal 4y ago
The iPhone had a lot of prehistory in Apple, from Newton to iPod. Apple Silicon alo has a long history, starting with the humble beginnings as the Apple A4 in 2010, which relied on Samsung's Hummingbird for the CPU and PowerVR for the GPU (plus they acquired PA Semi in 2008). So both are not very good examples, because they build up experience over long periods.
- capableweb 4y ago
  > So both are not very good examples, because they build up experience over long periods. They are examples of something they could similarly do for the Apple Neural Engine but in a bigger scale in the future. They have experience deploying it in a smaller scale/different versions, they would just have to apply it in bigger scale in order to be able to compete with NVIDIA.
rchiang 4y ago
To be fair, Apple released their iPhone after building iPods for 6 years. So, it's not like they had zero experience with handheld devices at the time. Also, while Apple did create their first chip (at least of their current families) in 2007, they did acquire 150 or so engineers when they bought PA Semi in 2008. So, that gave them a leg up compared to building a chip team completely from scratch.
- simonh 4y ago
  Right, the fact they have a habit of releasing industry redefining first products in a category is they do the hard work to make it happen. It’s not by accident.

abudabi123 4y ago

Apple's money can buy relationships to line up the ducks in a row but true genius is willing to work for $1 a year and be rewarded for the upside when it comes, see SJ.