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"Microsoft employees fooled by statistical inference."

kyriakos 4y ago
Technically the human brain is another electronic device we don't fully understand and cannot replicate, should we not consider ourselves intelligent?
- puttycat 4y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room
  - trc001 4y ago
    This. I’ve been pointing to Serle for months now on this and soo many people who have never bothered to study philosophy seem to want to weigh in on this it’s maddening. So, so many bad/shallow takes that don’t seem to realize that people have been debating this for hundreds of years already
    - famouswaffles 4y ago
      The chinese room is rubbish lol. Your brain is a chinese room by that analogy. Individual neurons (forget atoms or even cells) don't understand chinese any more than an arbitrary parameter from an artificial neural network.
- Spivak 4y ago
  This is the part I don’t get why people are so weird about. If all the math and physics underpinning the human brain were laid out we would find it equally unimpressive. For all intents and purposes we have made an artificial language processing center that by all accounts is better than the one we have. It feels really uncanny because we have a lot of control over how it operates and provide it memory but there’s no inherent reason such a thing would be impossible with a section of a human brain in a jar.
- svorakang 4y ago
  "Intelligent life on other planets? I'm not even sure there is on earth!" Albert Einstein. (According to this link, which I don't fully trust... https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/587314-intelligent-life-on-other-planets-i-m-not-even-sure-there https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/587314-intelligent-life-on-...)
DustinBrett 4y ago
What if we find out "statistical inference" was the key to consciousness. We actually don't know much still.
- camdenlock 4y ago
  Exactly. The arrogance of “philosophers” lately has been super cringe to witness, claiming that they know for sure.

Technically the human brain is another electronic device we don't fully understand and cannot replicate, should we not consider ourselves intelligent?

puttycat 4y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room
- trc001 4y ago
  This. I’ve been pointing to Serle for months now on this and soo many people who have never bothered to study philosophy seem to want to weigh in on this it’s maddening. So, so many bad/shallow takes that don’t seem to realize that people have been debating this for hundreds of years already
  - famouswaffles 4y ago
    The chinese room is rubbish lol. Your brain is a chinese room by that analogy. Individual neurons (forget atoms or even cells) don't understand chinese any more than an arbitrary parameter from an artificial neural network.
Spivak 4y ago
This is the part I don’t get why people are so weird about. If all the math and physics underpinning the human brain were laid out we would find it equally unimpressive. For all intents and purposes we have made an artificial language processing center that by all accounts is better than the one we have. It feels really uncanny because we have a lot of control over how it operates and provide it memory but there’s no inherent reason such a thing would be impossible with a section of a human brain in a jar.
svorakang 4y ago
"Intelligent life on other planets? I'm not even sure there is on earth!" Albert Einstein. (According to this link, which I don't fully trust... https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/587314-intelligent-life-on-other-planets-i-m-not-even-sure-there https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/587314-intelligent-life-on-...)

DustinBrett 4y ago

What if we find out "statistical inference" was the key to consciousness. We actually don't know much still.

camdenlock 4y ago
Exactly. The arrogance of “philosophers” lately has been super cringe to witness, claiming that they know for sure.