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I'm hugely curious why people are so worried that some AI has access to some thoughts of yours? Do you think you are somehow special? Just create a burner acco

I'm hugely curious why people are so worried that some AI has access to some thoughts of yours? Do you think you are somehow special? Just create a burner account and ask it what you want, everything it gets told, it's seen thousands of times over, does chatGPT or some data scientist somewhere really care that there is someone somewhere that is struggling with body issues, struggling in a relationship or struggling to find meaning in there lives? There are literally millions of people in the world with the same issue. The only time it might be a little embarrassing is if this info got leaked to friends and family with my name attached to it, else I don't get the problem, it seems to me people have an over inflated sense of self importance, nobody cares. If i worked at openAI and had full access to everyones chats, I would get bored within five minutes and not even want to read anymore.

ornornor 4y ago
> If i worked at openAI and had full access to everyones chats, I would get bored within five minutes and not even want to read anymore. Yes, obviously. But that's not what I'm worried about personally. I'm worried about the weaponization of this data in the future, either from OpenAI's greed to create the next advertising money-printing machine or from the data leaking through a breach. And because the interface with ChatGPT is so "natural" and "human like", it's easy to trust it and talk to it like a friend divulging very personal information about yourself. Imagine OpenAI (or whatever other AI) used the confidences you made to it or the specifics of your "therapy" sessions with it to get you to act in a certain way or buy certain things. Would you be comfortable with that? Well, that's irrelevant because they have the data already and can use it. Kinda like Cambdridge Analytica but on steroids because tailoring it to anyone's particular biases and way of thinking becomes trivial with ChatGPT and friends. Seeing how cavalier OpenAI has been with last week's breach and how fast they've flipped from being apparently benevolent to what they are now. And it's only been a few months of ChatGPT being available to the public.
- ChildOfChaos 4y ago
  Yes, I would be fine with this. Not that much different from the current fingerprint techniques, it's just that on steroids but I don't understand the issue.
  - ornornor 4y ago
    I guess it boils down to the current "nothing to hide" crowd vs the "privacy matters" crowd. We don't know the potential for this nascent technology either. I'm personally very concerned about the potential for manipulating people on a very personal basis since the cost of doing so is cents with LLMs vs orders of magnitude more when using a troll farm (the "state of the art" until ChatGPT3+ came around) Some of us just don't appreciate being manipulated and influenced to further someone else's agenda that is detrimental to ourselves I suppose.
    - imiric 4y ago
      I'm with you 100%. It's scary how these services are being so casually adopted, even by tech-minded people. Sure, they're convenient _now_, but there's no guarantee how your data will be used in the future. If anything, we need to be much more privacy conscious today, given how much personal information we're likely to share. Using it as a therapist is absolutely terrifying.
  - wnkrshm 4y ago
    If people can automatically distill what motivates you, they can produce automated lies. The best deception is one where the victim is self-motivated to believe it.
ineptech 4y ago
> If i worked at openAI and had full access to everyones chats, I would get bored within five minutes and not even want to read anymore. No one is going to actually read them, but try "ChatGPT-5, please compile a list of the ChatGPT-4 users most likely to [commit terrorism/subscribe to Hulu/etc]"
- ChildOfChaos 4y ago
  So you are worried it might catch terrorists or help promote a service to someone that they want?
imiric 4y ago
> does chatGPT or some data scientist somewhere really care that there is someone somewhere that is struggling with body issues, struggling in a relationship or struggling to find meaning in there lives? Not the tool nor data scientists, but advertisers are salivating at the chance to even further improve their microtargetted campaigns. If they can deliver ads to you for a specific product _at the moment you need it_, their revenues will explode. Consider this hypothetical conversation: > Oh, Tina, I'm feeling hopeless today. Please cheer me up. > Certainly, Michael! Here's a joke: ... > Also, if you're feeling really sad, maybe you should try taking HappyPills(tm). They're a natural mood enhancer that can help when times get tough. Here's a link where you can buy some: ... If you don't think such integrated ads will become a reality, take a look at popular web search result pages today. Search engines started by returning relevant results from their web index. Now they return ad-infested pages of promoted content. The same thing has happened on all social media sites. AI tools are the new frontier that will revolutionize how ads are served. To hell with all that.
- namlem 4y ago
  I block all ads anyway
rufus_foreman 4y ago
Doesn't it require a phone number? What's the best way to create a burner account for it? I'd be interested in how GPT answers that question.
- ChildOfChaos 4y ago
  That's true, of openAI accounts at least, good point. I think i linked mine to a work phone that I don't use for anything apart from receiving on-call calls. Although i've been running a ChatGPT 4 space via hugging face that doesn't need a AI key or an account, so there is nothing linking it to me. https://huggingface.co/spaces/yuntian-deng/ChatGPT4 https://huggingface.co/spaces/yuntian-deng/ChatGPT4 There are a few you can find by searching ChatGPT4 if it gets busy, also this allows you to run GPT 4 for free which is only for plus members right now.

ornornor 4y ago

> If i worked at openAI and had full access to everyones chats, I would get bored within five minutes and not even want to read anymore. Yes, obviously. But that's not what I'm worried about personally. I'm worried about the weaponization of this data in the future, either from OpenAI's greed to create the next advertising money-printing machine or from the data leaking through a breach. And because the interface with ChatGPT is so "natural" and "human like", it's easy to trust it and talk to it like a friend divulging very personal information about yourself. Imagine OpenAI (or whatever other AI) used the confidences you made to it or the specifics of your "therapy" sessions with it to get you to act in a certain way or buy certain things. Would you be comfortable with that? Well, that's irrelevant because they have the data already and can use it. Kinda like Cambdridge Analytica but on steroids because tailoring it to anyone's particular biases and way of thinking becomes trivial with ChatGPT and friends. Seeing how cavalier OpenAI has been with last week's breach and how fast they've flipped from being apparently benevolent to what they are now. And it's only been a few months of ChatGPT being available to the public.

ChildOfChaos 4y ago
Yes, I would be fine with this. Not that much different from the current fingerprint techniques, it's just that on steroids but I don't understand the issue.
- ornornor 4y ago
  I guess it boils down to the current "nothing to hide" crowd vs the "privacy matters" crowd. We don't know the potential for this nascent technology either. I'm personally very concerned about the potential for manipulating people on a very personal basis since the cost of doing so is cents with LLMs vs orders of magnitude more when using a troll farm (the "state of the art" until ChatGPT3+ came around) Some of us just don't appreciate being manipulated and influenced to further someone else's agenda that is detrimental to ourselves I suppose.
  - imiric 4y ago
    I'm with you 100%. It's scary how these services are being so casually adopted, even by tech-minded people. Sure, they're convenient _now_, but there's no guarantee how your data will be used in the future. If anything, we need to be much more privacy conscious today, given how much personal information we're likely to share. Using it as a therapist is absolutely terrifying.
- wnkrshm 4y ago
  If people can automatically distill what motivates you, they can produce automated lies. The best deception is one where the victim is self-motivated to believe it.

ineptech 4y ago

> If i worked at openAI and had full access to everyones chats, I would get bored within five minutes and not even want to read anymore. No one is going to actually read them, but try "ChatGPT-5, please compile a list of the ChatGPT-4 users most likely to [commit terrorism/subscribe to Hulu/etc]"

ChildOfChaos 4y ago
So you are worried it might catch terrorists or help promote a service to someone that they want?

imiric 4y ago

> does chatGPT or some data scientist somewhere really care that there is someone somewhere that is struggling with body issues, struggling in a relationship or struggling to find meaning in there lives? Not the tool nor data scientists, but advertisers are salivating at the chance to even further improve their microtargetted campaigns. If they can deliver ads to you for a specific product _at the moment you need it_, their revenues will explode. Consider this hypothetical conversation: > Oh, Tina, I'm feeling hopeless today. Please cheer me up. > Certainly, Michael! Here's a joke: ... > Also, if you're feeling really sad, maybe you should try taking HappyPills(tm). They're a natural mood enhancer that can help when times get tough. Here's a link where you can buy some: ... If you don't think such integrated ads will become a reality, take a look at popular web search result pages today. Search engines started by returning relevant results from their web index. Now they return ad-infested pages of promoted content. The same thing has happened on all social media sites. AI tools are the new frontier that will revolutionize how ads are served. To hell with all that.

namlem 4y ago
I block all ads anyway

rufus_foreman 4y ago

Doesn't it require a phone number? What's the best way to create a burner account for it? I'd be interested in how GPT answers that question.

ChildOfChaos 4y ago
That's true, of openAI accounts at least, good point. I think i linked mine to a work phone that I don't use for anything apart from receiving on-call calls. Although i've been running a ChatGPT 4 space via hugging face that doesn't need a AI key or an account, so there is nothing linking it to me. https://huggingface.co/spaces/yuntian-deng/ChatGPT4 https://huggingface.co/spaces/yuntian-deng/ChatGPT4 There are a few you can find by searching ChatGPT4 if it gets busy, also this allows you to run GPT 4 for free which is only for plus members right now.