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I think now we are seeing them trying to cut costs. You can no longer sort a channels videos from Oldest to newest. So if you want to watch a channel in chronol

I think now we are seeing them trying to cut costs. You can no longer sort a channels videos from Oldest to newest. So if you want to watch a channel in chronological order, you are out of luck. I guess this was done to avoid hitting cold storage as much as possible.

ravenstine 4y ago
Also no 4k anymore unless you pay, I think.
- elbowjack65 4y ago
  That's not correct.4k is available for free users. https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/17/youtube-ends-the-test-asking-users-to-get-a-premium-subscription-to-watch-4k-videos/ https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/17/youtube-ends-the-test-aski...
  - ravenstine 4y ago
    Didn't know this! It never defaults to 4k for me anymore so I assumed the need to pay for premium was still a thing.
    - ThrowawayTestr 4y ago
      YT will default to the lowest resolution it can get away with without you noticing, usually 720p
      - okdood64 4y ago
        This is also false. Mine defaults to 1440p on Web if the video has it, if not, 1080p which most videos have. On mobile you can set a Quality vs Performance default in settings, or just leave it on Auto. For videos with 4k, it will sometimes try to play those as well without me asking (but I always turn it down to 1440p because my fans go crazy.) If you have crappy internet, yes it will give you lower resolution as the resolution is dynamically adjusted unless you specify otherwise. There's so much FUD out there now that it's cool to hate on Google.
        ravenstine 4y ago
        My connection doesn't suck. It's 1 gigabit down, and the same service I had back when YouTube seemed gung ho on defaulting to hi-res video for me. I suppose it's always possible that an ISP could throttle connections to YT. Judging how fast torrents download for me, there's no good reason why bandwidth in and of itself would cause YouTube to only load up to 1080p for me (though often 720p) unless I force it to use a higher res.
immanentize 4y ago
The default is chronological sorting. You could just go to the bottom and work upwards. Would Bb tedious with a lot of videos but it's still trivial to make a playlist in whatever order you wish.
- crop_rotation 4y ago
  Yes the default is newest -> oldest sorting. What you want many times is the reverse, which is not possible anymore. For any channel with tons of videos, you would just default to not bother with watching everything.
  - immanentize 4y ago
    You can just start at the bottom, with a keyboard you can just hold END If the flow reversal is so bothersome it's possible to put it into a playlist.
jstanley 4y ago
My biggest issue with YouTube is that the search doesn't work properly any more. It shows you a handful of results related to your search term and then goes off into the weeds showing you videos that "people also watched", videos "for you", and videos that you previously watched. Obviously the goal is to distract people with something that they'll click on, rather than to help them find what they are looking for. Very frustrating.
- crop_rotation 4y ago
  I have resorted to using Google for youtube searches. Works well.
- nicbou 4y ago
  A lot of Google core products feel like that now. The core features seem to have been abandoned, and in some cases only get updated to make them worse.
- mirrorlake 4y ago
  To get the more traditional results you have to go into filters and choose "video", but I'm sure they'll eventually remove the ability to search for only videos eventually, too (ugh). It's the "news feed-ification" of search.
  - jstanley 4y ago
    Nice, I didn't know about this option, thanks. Sadly it doesn't appear to be sticky, it gets reset every time you make a new search.
  - xattt 4y ago
    > It's the "news feed-ification" of search I can see the future of ChatGPT-like search working like the free tier of Pandora. If you search for something, you’re given results like it but not the actual thing you looked up. Results you want will be paywalled behind subscriptions.

ravenstine 4y ago

Also no 4k anymore unless you pay, I think.

elbowjack65 4y ago
That's not correct.4k is available for free users. https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/17/youtube-ends-the-test-asking-users-to-get-a-premium-subscription-to-watch-4k-videos/ https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/17/youtube-ends-the-test-aski...
- ravenstine 4y ago
  Didn't know this! It never defaults to 4k for me anymore so I assumed the need to pay for premium was still a thing.
  - ThrowawayTestr 4y ago
    YT will default to the lowest resolution it can get away with without you noticing, usually 720p
    - okdood64 4y ago
      This is also false. Mine defaults to 1440p on Web if the video has it, if not, 1080p which most videos have. On mobile you can set a Quality vs Performance default in settings, or just leave it on Auto. For videos with 4k, it will sometimes try to play those as well without me asking (but I always turn it down to 1440p because my fans go crazy.) If you have crappy internet, yes it will give you lower resolution as the resolution is dynamically adjusted unless you specify otherwise. There's so much FUD out there now that it's cool to hate on Google.
      - ravenstine 4y ago
        My connection doesn't suck. It's 1 gigabit down, and the same service I had back when YouTube seemed gung ho on defaulting to hi-res video for me. I suppose it's always possible that an ISP could throttle connections to YT. Judging how fast torrents download for me, there's no good reason why bandwidth in and of itself would cause YouTube to only load up to 1080p for me (though often 720p) unless I force it to use a higher res.

immanentize 4y ago

The default is chronological sorting. You could just go to the bottom and work upwards. Would Bb tedious with a lot of videos but it's still trivial to make a playlist in whatever order you wish.

crop_rotation 4y ago
Yes the default is newest -> oldest sorting. What you want many times is the reverse, which is not possible anymore. For any channel with tons of videos, you would just default to not bother with watching everything.
- immanentize 4y ago
  You can just start at the bottom, with a keyboard you can just hold END If the flow reversal is so bothersome it's possible to put it into a playlist.

jstanley 4y ago

My biggest issue with YouTube is that the search doesn't work properly any more. It shows you a handful of results related to your search term and then goes off into the weeds showing you videos that "people also watched", videos "for you", and videos that you previously watched. Obviously the goal is to distract people with something that they'll click on, rather than to help them find what they are looking for. Very frustrating.

crop_rotation 4y ago
I have resorted to using Google for youtube searches. Works well.
nicbou 4y ago
A lot of Google core products feel like that now. The core features seem to have been abandoned, and in some cases only get updated to make them worse.
mirrorlake 4y ago
To get the more traditional results you have to go into filters and choose "video", but I'm sure they'll eventually remove the ability to search for only videos eventually, too (ugh). It's the "news feed-ification" of search.
- jstanley 4y ago
  Nice, I didn't know about this option, thanks. Sadly it doesn't appear to be sticky, it gets reset every time you make a new search.
- xattt 4y ago
  > It's the "news feed-ification" of search I can see the future of ChatGPT-like search working like the free tier of Pandora. If you search for something, you’re given results like it but not the actual thing you looked up. Results you want will be paywalled behind subscriptions.