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Cash shouldn’t be going anywhere here in the USA. If you like eating food from a restaurant in the USA you’d better be tipping with cash. Otherwise the tip left

by ianai 4y ago

Cash shouldn’t be going anywhere here in the USA. If you like eating food from a restaurant in the USA you’d better be tipping with cash. Otherwise the tip left on the card goes to the business. And we know how stingy restaurants are with pay. I worked in hospitality for years. It’s tough, thankless, and not paid well. Tip heavy and often!

junaru 4y ago
> Otherwise the tip left on the card goes to the business. Good, and the business should compensate the waiters like in rest of the developed world. Once people stop tipping waiters will quit and businesses will be force to either pay them like regular staff or move to self service.
narwally 4y ago
It shouldn't, that's wage theft and is very much illegal.
- lrvick 4y ago
  It could be split across everyone that works that shift, and it is taxed as salary, etc. Cash from table to pocket can be readily spent however by the person that did the work. Always tip in cash.
  - b112 4y ago
    Wow. The person that does the work. Yes the waiter cooked the food, cleaned the dishes, bussed the dishes, seated the table(politely!), and so on. They did the work. I worked in a restaurant with tip sharing. The point behind it was, motivation by every step in the chain, for all persons, to do a good job. To compensate for a job well done. So that even the dishwasher, would take time to endure glasses spotless, to put that little extra touch. And all were hired, including the waiters, with this understanding. Which means, you are advocating theft from coworkers! If this is indicative of how waiters think today, I will be paying by card, and tipping by card. To ensure a waiter doesn't steal from their coworkers, if tip sharing is a thing.
    - Retric 4y ago
      I am not intending to tip the dishwashers when leaving a tip, I am tipping the wait staff. The actual solution is simply to pay staff a reasonable wage just like every other job. Lucky the solution is simple for customers, defect from the spiraling tip system.
      - b112 4y ago
        I am not intending to tip the dishwashers when leaving a tip, I am tipping the wait staff Of course you wouldn't want to have gratuity flow to the lowest paid of the staff, which has the most sweat enducing, filthy, labourish job in the place. They're probably an immigrant too, so screw em, right? (The above response is due to you singling out the dishwasher, instead of, say, the chef, or everyone). First, in Canada (unlike the US), everyone is paid a wage. Tipping amounts are different too, as a result. However, tip sharing is not a new thing. I was part of it in the early 80s, in Canada, and it has nothing to do with the latest "tip me for just doing my job" culture. Tip sharing properly reflects the wholeness of the job, not just the singularity of the waiting staff. And while it is reasonable for you to have a different opinion on tip sharing being good or not, this does not change the fact that if you work a job with tip sharing, pocketing tips is theft. I bet it's OK for all the other waiters to tip share, but then one waiter steal tips from the pool too? Even with today's "the owner has money, slack off! Steal from them! Work as little as possible!" trend, this is taking money from hard working co-workers!. It is theft.
        Retric 4y ago
        I singled them out dishwashers because either they did a sufficient job or they didn’t. You don’t get super extra clean dishes, thus exposing the basic lie of tip sharing. People get up in arms about tipping because the numbers have gotten so out of whack. 20% tips being expected completely undermine the basic economics of restaurants which is why they get so focused on tip sharing. The current expectation is to tip just to cover people doing their basic jobs. Imagine going to a restaurant, getting average service, and then not tipping because everything was average. It’s not about tipping for excellence in the US, it’s about providing basic compensation that not a tip that’s just payment for services rendered.
- sandworm101 4y ago
  As it is also illegal for people to take cash tips without reporting said income to the IRS. Some illegality has become a cultural norm. Restaurants shorting people on tips is as common as speeding.
jki275 4y ago
While I know that has happened in some places, it is illegal, and with a spouse who has worked in that industry for many years I can definitely say that the normal practice is that tips that are paid by credit card are paid to the server.
Spooky23 4y ago
I agree. Many institutional environments dropped cash because COVID. I’m not a fan of tipping via card, paying for stuff like parking, snacks, etc.
citrin_ru 4y ago
One of reasons I use card even if would prefer cash otherwise is prices like 4.89 so by using cash you ends up with leads of heavy coins. I would prefer after tax prices to be reasonably rounded but .99 / .98 / .89 prices seems to be strongly embedded in US/UK culture.
- ianai 4y ago
  You get to choose how much you tip. So tip in whole figures. You’re going to pay the transaction separately how ever you wish.

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junaru 4y ago

> Otherwise the tip left on the card goes to the business. Good, and the business should compensate the waiters like in rest of the developed world. Once people stop tipping waiters will quit and businesses will be force to either pay them like regular staff or move to self service.

narwally 4y ago

It shouldn't, that's wage theft and is very much illegal.

lrvick 4y ago
It could be split across everyone that works that shift, and it is taxed as salary, etc. Cash from table to pocket can be readily spent however by the person that did the work. Always tip in cash.
- b112 4y ago
  Wow. The person that does the work. Yes the waiter cooked the food, cleaned the dishes, bussed the dishes, seated the table(politely!), and so on. They did the work. I worked in a restaurant with tip sharing. The point behind it was, motivation by every step in the chain, for all persons, to do a good job. To compensate for a job well done. So that even the dishwasher, would take time to endure glasses spotless, to put that little extra touch. And all were hired, including the waiters, with this understanding. Which means, you are advocating theft from coworkers! If this is indicative of how waiters think today, I will be paying by card, and tipping by card. To ensure a waiter doesn't steal from their coworkers, if tip sharing is a thing.
  - Retric 4y ago
    I am not intending to tip the dishwashers when leaving a tip, I am tipping the wait staff. The actual solution is simply to pay staff a reasonable wage just like every other job. Lucky the solution is simple for customers, defect from the spiraling tip system.
    - b112 4y ago
      I am not intending to tip the dishwashers when leaving a tip, I am tipping the wait staff Of course you wouldn't want to have gratuity flow to the lowest paid of the staff, which has the most sweat enducing, filthy, labourish job in the place. They're probably an immigrant too, so screw em, right? (The above response is due to you singling out the dishwasher, instead of, say, the chef, or everyone). First, in Canada (unlike the US), everyone is paid a wage. Tipping amounts are different too, as a result. However, tip sharing is not a new thing. I was part of it in the early 80s, in Canada, and it has nothing to do with the latest "tip me for just doing my job" culture. Tip sharing properly reflects the wholeness of the job, not just the singularity of the waiting staff. And while it is reasonable for you to have a different opinion on tip sharing being good or not, this does not change the fact that if you work a job with tip sharing, pocketing tips is theft. I bet it's OK for all the other waiters to tip share, but then one waiter steal tips from the pool too? Even with today's "the owner has money, slack off! Steal from them! Work as little as possible!" trend, this is taking money from hard working co-workers!. It is theft.
      - Retric 4y ago
        I singled them out dishwashers because either they did a sufficient job or they didn’t. You don’t get super extra clean dishes, thus exposing the basic lie of tip sharing. People get up in arms about tipping because the numbers have gotten so out of whack. 20% tips being expected completely undermine the basic economics of restaurants which is why they get so focused on tip sharing. The current expectation is to tip just to cover people doing their basic jobs. Imagine going to a restaurant, getting average service, and then not tipping because everything was average. It’s not about tipping for excellence in the US, it’s about providing basic compensation that not a tip that’s just payment for services rendered.
sandworm101 4y ago
As it is also illegal for people to take cash tips without reporting said income to the IRS. Some illegality has become a cultural norm. Restaurants shorting people on tips is as common as speeding.

jki275 4y ago

While I know that has happened in some places, it is illegal, and with a spouse who has worked in that industry for many years I can definitely say that the normal practice is that tips that are paid by credit card are paid to the server.

Spooky23 4y ago

I agree. Many institutional environments dropped cash because COVID. I’m not a fan of tipping via card, paying for stuff like parking, snacks, etc.

citrin_ru 4y ago

One of reasons I use card even if would prefer cash otherwise is prices like 4.89 so by using cash you ends up with leads of heavy coins. I would prefer after tax prices to be reasonably rounded but .99 / .98 / .89 prices seems to be strongly embedded in US/UK culture.

ianai 4y ago
You get to choose how much you tip. So tip in whole figures. You’re going to pay the transaction separately how ever you wish.