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I'm confused. You act hostile yet you seem to agree with the original comment. The reason Row v Wade was overturned is that the judges don't want to have to de

I'm confused. You act hostile yet you seem to agree with the original comment. The reason Row v Wade was overturned is that the judges don't want to have to decide if abortion is legal or not. They want legislators to be responsible for that. You, the judges, and the parent comment are all in agreement here.

OJFord 4y ago
I have no idea what Roe v Wade is about (I'm not American or in the US), but I like GP read the parent comment to theirs as meaning 'these jokers overturned it, that is bad, we cannot rely on them'. Re-reading after seeing your own comment, it is ambiguous really, you could read it either way, but you're probably right (having the context of what it's about) and GP just mistook the meaning as I did. > If anything has proven this [that 'we need to react better to laws as they are being drafted, not wait out their inevitable harm to society'] lately is the Roe v. Wade overturn, we really need to stop relying on courts to "save" us and instead fight for better laws [...]
- orangepurple 4y ago
  It all boils down to people fighting for the right to do whatever they want to an unborn soul including shutting down its life processes at will. They all have different justifications and excuses. It boils down to the local morality hence why judges kicked it back to the local governments.
  - guelo 4y ago
    Souls aren't a real thing.
    - orangepurple 4y ago
      Neither is "abortion"
- smokeypanda 4y ago
  Your first reading was correct. The ambiguity is whether the comment was referring 'we'(author is part of referenced group), or 'them'(author is describing disgruntled group), possessing the viewpoint that the overturning was bad.
MrVandemar 4y ago
> The reason Row v Wade was overturned is that the judges don't want to have to decide if abortion is legal or not. No. The reason Roe v Wade was overturned is because conservative middle-aged/old white-guys with money are not happy about people, and by people I mean women, having reproductive choice. It's one of the areas that fundamental islam and conservative "Christians" have significant overlap, and that's not a good thing.
- deleted 4y ago
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- l8rlump 4y ago
  Yeah, we can’t have major world religions agreeing about stuff. Especially stuff you don’t agree with ;)
- account42 4y ago
  > white-guys https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx
  - MrVandemar 4y ago
    It's not just about the make-up of the supreme court; it's about the people and politics of the people who appointed them.
patmcc 4y ago
Oh, bullshit. The same judges who "want legislators to be responsible" for deciding abortion laws also explicitly don't want legislators deciding campaign finance and firearm laws. It's political. It's always been political. It always will be. The judges that want abortions illegal will find legal arguments to make that happen and vice versa.

OJFord 4y ago

I have no idea what Roe v Wade is about (I'm not American or in the US), but I like GP read the parent comment to theirs as meaning 'these jokers overturned it, that is bad, we cannot rely on them'. Re-reading after seeing your own comment, it is ambiguous really, you could read it either way, but you're probably right (having the context of what it's about) and GP just mistook the meaning as I did. > If anything has proven this [that 'we need to react better to laws as they are being drafted, not wait out their inevitable harm to society'] lately is the Roe v. Wade overturn, we really need to stop relying on courts to "save" us and instead fight for better laws [...]

orangepurple 4y ago
It all boils down to people fighting for the right to do whatever they want to an unborn soul including shutting down its life processes at will. They all have different justifications and excuses. It boils down to the local morality hence why judges kicked it back to the local governments.
- guelo 4y ago
  Souls aren't a real thing.
  - orangepurple 4y ago
    Neither is "abortion"
smokeypanda 4y ago
Your first reading was correct. The ambiguity is whether the comment was referring 'we'(author is part of referenced group), or 'them'(author is describing disgruntled group), possessing the viewpoint that the overturning was bad.

MrVandemar 4y ago

> The reason Row v Wade was overturned is that the judges don't want to have to decide if abortion is legal or not. No. The reason Roe v Wade was overturned is because conservative middle-aged/old white-guys with money are not happy about people, and by people I mean women, having reproductive choice. It's one of the areas that fundamental islam and conservative "Christians" have significant overlap, and that's not a good thing.

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l8rlump 4y ago
Yeah, we can’t have major world religions agreeing about stuff. Especially stuff you don’t agree with ;)
account42 4y ago
> white-guys https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx
- MrVandemar 4y ago
  It's not just about the make-up of the supreme court; it's about the people and politics of the people who appointed them.

patmcc 4y ago

Oh, bullshit. The same judges who "want legislators to be responsible" for deciding abortion laws also explicitly don't want legislators deciding campaign finance and firearm laws. It's political. It's always been political. It always will be. The judges that want abortions illegal will find legal arguments to make that happen and vice versa.