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I'm a neotech-luddite and think all social media should be banned, so you're not going to get an argument from me on how terrible Meta is. You admit that socia

I'm a neotech-luddite and think all social media should be banned, so you're not going to get an argument from me on how terrible Meta is. You admit that social media is bad and increases suicide rates, yes? Okay great, seems logical then to ban the app that's run by a country that has set out to actively degrade the country the app is deployed in. Here's how I know that TikTok is some sort of psyop: it's an entirely separate app in China. The algorithm does different things, explicitly. I don't know why people are so hostile to the idea that finally we've found a capitalistic company that should be punished for exploiting people. That Meta and Google behave badly is entirely irrelevant, and you and everyone else doing the same whataboutism dance knows it.

herbst 4y ago
Whataboutism are also all the arguments brought up in this thread against tiktok. I honestly don't care. I don't use either and actively dislike all of these echo chambers. If it's for me ban all of them, or let them get even worse I don't care. It doesn't influence me at all. But this is just a shitshow, cold war on a weird social level. This is not against tiktok this is obviously mainly a topic to talk bad about China.
- remarkEon 4y ago
  Well, we can't talk bad about China. That would be ... rude.
hakfoo 4y ago
> Here's how I know that TikTok is some sort of psyop: it's an entirely separate app in China. The algorithm does different things, explicitly. Can you explain that a bit more? Of course it's going to behave differently. Any serious multinational is going to tailor their offerings to local preferences. A McDonald's in India sells a significantly different menu than one in Indiana. As for it being a seperate app rather than clicking a country flag during onboarding or whatever, I can see plenty of reasonable technical reasons for that. I'd think they probably have even more freedom than most players to do so, because they didn't have to play to significant established brand expectations on arrival.

herbst 4y ago

Whataboutism are also all the arguments brought up in this thread against tiktok. I honestly don't care. I don't use either and actively dislike all of these echo chambers. If it's for me ban all of them, or let them get even worse I don't care. It doesn't influence me at all. But this is just a shitshow, cold war on a weird social level. This is not against tiktok this is obviously mainly a topic to talk bad about China.

remarkEon 4y ago
Well, we can't talk bad about China. That would be ... rude.

hakfoo 4y ago

> Here's how I know that TikTok is some sort of psyop: it's an entirely separate app in China. The algorithm does different things, explicitly. Can you explain that a bit more? Of course it's going to behave differently. Any serious multinational is going to tailor their offerings to local preferences. A McDonald's in India sells a significantly different menu than one in Indiana. As for it being a seperate app rather than clicking a country flag during onboarding or whatever, I can see plenty of reasonable technical reasons for that. I'd think they probably have even more freedom than most players to do so, because they didn't have to play to significant established brand expectations on arrival.