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It’s very, very simple. So long as China continues to ban US social media companies and search engines, whatever reason they have for doing so is a valid reason

It’s very, very simple. So long as China continues to ban US social media companies and search engines, whatever reason they have for doing so is a valid reason for the US and other western countries to respond in kind and ban Chinese social media companies. Not just from a military or security standpoint but also an economic one. If TikTok is “not a threat” then neither is Facebook and Google. End of story.

sumedh 4y ago
> So long as China continues to ban US social media companies and search engines Its just bizzare to know that China bans those companies yet US allows Chinese social media companies to run in US.
- WeylandYutani 4y ago
  Not bizarre. America's ideology is capitalism and free trade. Obviously China never signed up for that.
t-writescode 4y ago
Is the pissy-fight back and forth between two world powers worth the 150M people that have gotten more useful news than we have in years; *and* the millions of small businesses that have been able to get off the ground due to TikTok's algorithm helping them find the right audience?
- lazyeye 4y ago
  Absolutely. Without question.
ashwagary 4y ago
>It’s very, very simple. It's not that simple. China has laws that US social media/search engine companies are not willing to follow but AFAICT TikTok abides by every US law that exists.
- ericmay 4y ago
  It is that simple. Chinese “laws” created in such a way to keep American social media and tech giants out. We can just create our own corresponding law.
  - ashwagary 4y ago
    >We can just create our own corresponding law. America cant keep its promises to its citizens and do what you are describing at the same time. It's now choosing the latter and chipping away at the former. You should read the RESTRICT act that just passed. "Never let a good crisis (real or manufactured) go to waste" always works on an amnesiatic society. At some point the pro-tiktok ban crowd will realize just how much of their 1st and 4th amendment rights they have lost.
    - ericmay 4y ago
      > At some point the pro-tiktok ban crowd will realize just how much of their 1st and 4th amendment rights they have lost. Yes, Tik Tok developers are likely to use the algorithm to help defend the company. > America cant keep its promises to its citizens and do what you are describing at the same time. It's now choosing the latter and chipping away at the former. What specific promise are you referring to?
      - ashwagary 4y ago
        >What specific promise are you referring to? >1st and 4th amendment rights Read the RESTRICT Act and tell me you honestly believe it isn't vague enough to be abused.

sumedh 4y ago

> So long as China continues to ban US social media companies and search engines Its just bizzare to know that China bans those companies yet US allows Chinese social media companies to run in US.

WeylandYutani 4y ago
Not bizarre. America's ideology is capitalism and free trade. Obviously China never signed up for that.

t-writescode 4y ago

Is the pissy-fight back and forth between two world powers worth the 150M people that have gotten more useful news than we have in years; *and* the millions of small businesses that have been able to get off the ground due to TikTok's algorithm helping them find the right audience?

lazyeye 4y ago
Absolutely. Without question.

ashwagary 4y ago

>It’s very, very simple. It's not that simple. China has laws that US social media/search engine companies are not willing to follow but AFAICT TikTok abides by every US law that exists.

ericmay 4y ago
It is that simple. Chinese “laws” created in such a way to keep American social media and tech giants out. We can just create our own corresponding law.
- ashwagary 4y ago
  >We can just create our own corresponding law. America cant keep its promises to its citizens and do what you are describing at the same time. It's now choosing the latter and chipping away at the former. You should read the RESTRICT act that just passed. "Never let a good crisis (real or manufactured) go to waste" always works on an amnesiatic society. At some point the pro-tiktok ban crowd will realize just how much of their 1st and 4th amendment rights they have lost.
  - ericmay 4y ago
    > At some point the pro-tiktok ban crowd will realize just how much of their 1st and 4th amendment rights they have lost. Yes, Tik Tok developers are likely to use the algorithm to help defend the company. > America cant keep its promises to its citizens and do what you are describing at the same time. It's now choosing the latter and chipping away at the former. What specific promise are you referring to?
    - ashwagary 4y ago
      >What specific promise are you referring to? >1st and 4th amendment rights Read the RESTRICT Act and tell me you honestly believe it isn't vague enough to be abused.