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“We will appeal.” https://twitter.com/internetarchive/status/1639424777264721923 https://twitter.com/internetarchive/status/16394247772647219...

A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
I said it before on this very forum. Wikipedia does not really need your donations these days. IA just might.
- TimTheTinker 4y ago
  IA and Signal are two nonprofits I donate to and recommend everyone donate to regardless of their political or religious convictions (or lack thereof). The Internet Archive very well may be the only way to know a lot of important things from the past -- things that libraries used to keep track of but can't in the internet age.
  - alwayslikethis 4y ago
    I would add FSF and/or EFF. FSF is more uncompromising with respect to their original principles of defending digital freedom, whereas EFF sort of shifts with time (gradually giving up grounds).
- jefurii 4y ago
  Looks like EFF is providing the lawyers for this case. THEY need your dollars too.
- tenpies 4y ago
  Unfortunately IA lost all credibility in my eyes, when they decided that one journalist in particular gets to decide that none of their (awful) tweets should be archived[1]. I understand not allowing certain things to be archived, but the tweets of a public person, especially one who works as a news-maker, should certainly be in the allowed list. E: And just to be clear, this was before said writer set their tweets to private. --- [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/https://twitter.com/TaylorLorenz https://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/https://twitter....
  - boomboomsubban 4y ago
    Presumably you too can get your tweets excluded from the wayback machine. They're your intellectual property, you control what other's do with it.
  - fire 4y ago
    are you assuming they decided this or did they state it somewhere?
  - pauby 4y ago
    What has IA done wrong? You don't provide any references.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - 35208654 4y ago
    The demand for ideological purity and that the revolution be perfect is the reason that progressive causes lose so goddamn always. Your opponent doesn’t play by these rules.
- yamrzou 4y ago
  Thanks. I just donated to support them, and encourage everyone to do the same.
- criddell 4y ago
  If the IA loses all appeals and the lending library is totally destroyed, is there a firewall between that and the entity that is archiving the internet, or does the whole thing live and die together?
  - boomboomsubban 4y ago
    Some people fear that there will be fines that bankrupt the IA, but there's nothing inherent in this ruling that would impact the rest of the archive.

A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago

I said it before on this very forum. Wikipedia does not really need your donations these days. IA just might.

TimTheTinker 4y ago
IA and Signal are two nonprofits I donate to and recommend everyone donate to regardless of their political or religious convictions (or lack thereof). The Internet Archive very well may be the only way to know a lot of important things from the past -- things that libraries used to keep track of but can't in the internet age.
- alwayslikethis 4y ago
  I would add FSF and/or EFF. FSF is more uncompromising with respect to their original principles of defending digital freedom, whereas EFF sort of shifts with time (gradually giving up grounds).
jefurii 4y ago
Looks like EFF is providing the lawyers for this case. THEY need your dollars too.
tenpies 4y ago
Unfortunately IA lost all credibility in my eyes, when they decided that one journalist in particular gets to decide that none of their (awful) tweets should be archived[1]. I understand not allowing certain things to be archived, but the tweets of a public person, especially one who works as a news-maker, should certainly be in the allowed list. E: And just to be clear, this was before said writer set their tweets to private. --- [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/https://twitter.com/TaylorLorenz https://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/https://twitter....
- boomboomsubban 4y ago
  Presumably you too can get your tweets excluded from the wayback machine. They're your intellectual property, you control what other's do with it.
- fire 4y ago
  are you assuming they decided this or did they state it somewhere?
- pauby 4y ago
  What has IA done wrong? You don't provide any references.
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- 35208654 4y ago
  The demand for ideological purity and that the revolution be perfect is the reason that progressive causes lose so goddamn always. Your opponent doesn’t play by these rules.
yamrzou 4y ago
Thanks. I just donated to support them, and encourage everyone to do the same.
criddell 4y ago
If the IA loses all appeals and the lending library is totally destroyed, is there a firewall between that and the entity that is archiving the internet, or does the whole thing live and die together?
- boomboomsubban 4y ago
  Some people fear that there will be fines that bankrupt the IA, but there's nothing inherent in this ruling that would impact the rest of the archive.