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Just to clarify, what are the consequences of their actions? It appears to be a clear case of copyright infringement. Therefore, I assume that the legal penalti

Just to clarify, what are the consequences of their actions? It appears to be a clear case of copyright infringement. Therefore, I assume that the legal penalties listed on this website (https://www.lib.purdue.edu/uco/infringement https://www.lib.purdue.edu/uco/infringement) can be applied in this case: - The infringer paying the monetary damages and profits. - The law offering a range from $200 to $150,000 for each infringed work. - The infringer paying for all lawyers' fees and court costs. Is it more likely for the case to be resolved outside the court? I am worried about their future.

ocdtrekkie 4y ago
The consequences may be the loss of the entire Internet Archive, if it can't afford to both pay the fines of deciding to ++++ around and find out with book publishers and running its servers at the same time.
- echelon 4y ago
  I'll donate everything I can if that happens. And I'll call all of my representatives. I value Internet Archive as much as Wikipedia. And with LLMs set to replace Wikipedia, I think IA will have longer societal and historical value.
- TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
  > loss of the entire Internet Archive They host a lot of material that is not copyrighted and expired copyrights. Also this ruling does not apply to software.
  - danielheath 4y ago
    Yeah, and if they are financially wiped out they will no longer be able to do so.
- viridian 4y ago
  You can say "fuck". Not doing so just makes your comment less clear, and forces the reader to go "what's with the pluses, is it a keyboard issue? Oh wait, the commenter is just censoring the word 'fuck' here, which I as a reader know since since 'fuck around and find out' is a common English expression".
  - ocdtrekkie 4y ago
    I can, but I choose not to. :) It's a bit more obvious with asterisks instead of plusses, but asterisks tend to be consumed by markdown-like parsing behaviors, and then I have to figure out escaping syntax, etc.
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wahern 4y ago
Libraries are exempted from statutory damages if they had a good faith belief that their usage was Fair Use. The published opinion defers the question of exemption. Statutory damages are the most significant risk to IA's finances, both in this case but also wrt other potential plaintiffs who might be waiting in the wings. Exemption almost certainly figured into IA's risk assessment when designing and deploying their loan program. The argument for exemption is, naturally, stronger than for Fair Use.

ocdtrekkie 4y ago

The consequences may be the loss of the entire Internet Archive, if it can't afford to both pay the fines of deciding to ++++ around and find out with book publishers and running its servers at the same time.

echelon 4y ago
I'll donate everything I can if that happens. And I'll call all of my representatives. I value Internet Archive as much as Wikipedia. And with LLMs set to replace Wikipedia, I think IA will have longer societal and historical value.
TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
> loss of the entire Internet Archive They host a lot of material that is not copyrighted and expired copyrights. Also this ruling does not apply to software.
- danielheath 4y ago
  Yeah, and if they are financially wiped out they will no longer be able to do so.
viridian 4y ago
You can say "fuck". Not doing so just makes your comment less clear, and forces the reader to go "what's with the pluses, is it a keyboard issue? Oh wait, the commenter is just censoring the word 'fuck' here, which I as a reader know since since 'fuck around and find out' is a common English expression".
- ocdtrekkie 4y ago
  I can, but I choose not to. :) It's a bit more obvious with asterisks instead of plusses, but asterisks tend to be consumed by markdown-like parsing behaviors, and then I have to figure out escaping syntax, etc.

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wahern 4y ago

Libraries are exempted from statutory damages if they had a good faith belief that their usage was Fair Use. The published opinion defers the question of exemption. Statutory damages are the most significant risk to IA's finances, both in this case but also wrt other potential plaintiffs who might be waiting in the wings. Exemption almost certainly figured into IA's risk assessment when designing and deploying their loan program. The argument for exemption is, naturally, stronger than for Fair Use.