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Too late. We already ditched Docker for Podman. It was a lot easier than I expected.

berkle4455 4y ago
But most projects are still published to dockerhub aren't they? Or was this only for hosting of your own private images?
- verdverm 4y ago
  This was about public images for free docker organizations (teams), used by many open source projects for branding / naming consistency. I maintain one of the projects which moved to ghcr.io and have no interest in moving back, only further away. They have shown their hand and can no longer be trusted as good stewards or ecosystem participants imo
alphabettsy 4y ago
How does switching to Podman mitigate the problem of container image hosting that people were upset about?
- rc_mob 4y ago
  lol true. but redhat does offe quay.io which is fine
  - wankle 4y ago
    It's starting to feel like Red Hat people are the ones amp'ing all this up.
- encryptluks2 4y ago
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nextlevelwizard 4y ago
You do realize that you moving away is actually a win for Dockerhub, right? Whole point of removing the free plan wasn't to squeeze money out from you, but to make you pay for the free storage and bandwidth. If you don't take up that free storage and bandwidth that is literally the same as removing your free plan. I don't know how podman does container storing, but if everyone moves over you probably shouldn't expect them to have free tier forever. EDIT: I would love to hear your counter arguments since you are downvoting. Why am I wrong?
- metadat 4y ago
  You've fallen into the trap of an overly simplistic and narrow view. When projects and people move away from DockerHub, it hurts Docker-the-company because it further decreases their already tenuous and evaporating relevance. Reducing a fraction of storage and bandwidth costs isn't important compared to retaining mindshare and the perception of relevance. Edit: @nextlevelwizard The explanation you requested has been provided. Now it seems you're disagreeing with a common, widely accepted phenomenon. I was hoping for a more collaborative interaction.
  - nextlevelwizard 4y ago
    No company is moving anything. Individuals and some open source projects are moving. I am very surprised if this has any kind of effect.
    - kuratkull 4y ago
      Companies will leave if they cannot trust Docker Hub to keep their CI systems working. Scaring decision makers with technical issues and instability is a pretty big nono.
      - nextlevelwizard 4y ago
        What company is pulling straight from docker hub anyway? You just blindly trust whatever is there?
atlgator 4y ago
Lots of replies related to image hosting. We still base our containers off the public images provided by docker hub, but our customized images are stored in a private Azure container registry. This is more due to the high security of our environment than anything else. We cannot deploy from external sources.

But most projects are still published to dockerhub aren't they? Or was this only for hosting of your own private images?

verdverm 4y ago
This was about public images for free docker organizations (teams), used by many open source projects for branding / naming consistency. I maintain one of the projects which moved to ghcr.io and have no interest in moving back, only further away. They have shown their hand and can no longer be trusted as good stewards or ecosystem participants imo

alphabettsy 4y ago

How does switching to Podman mitigate the problem of container image hosting that people were upset about?

rc_mob 4y ago
lol true. but redhat does offe quay.io which is fine
- wankle 4y ago
  It's starting to feel like Red Hat people are the ones amp'ing all this up.
encryptluks2 4y ago
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nextlevelwizard 4y ago

You do realize that you moving away is actually a win for Dockerhub, right? Whole point of removing the free plan wasn't to squeeze money out from you, but to make you pay for the free storage and bandwidth. If you don't take up that free storage and bandwidth that is literally the same as removing your free plan. I don't know how podman does container storing, but if everyone moves over you probably shouldn't expect them to have free tier forever. EDIT: I would love to hear your counter arguments since you are downvoting. Why am I wrong?

metadat 4y ago
You've fallen into the trap of an overly simplistic and narrow view. When projects and people move away from DockerHub, it hurts Docker-the-company because it further decreases their already tenuous and evaporating relevance. Reducing a fraction of storage and bandwidth costs isn't important compared to retaining mindshare and the perception of relevance. Edit: @nextlevelwizard The explanation you requested has been provided. Now it seems you're disagreeing with a common, widely accepted phenomenon. I was hoping for a more collaborative interaction.
- nextlevelwizard 4y ago
  No company is moving anything. Individuals and some open source projects are moving. I am very surprised if this has any kind of effect.
  - kuratkull 4y ago
    Companies will leave if they cannot trust Docker Hub to keep their CI systems working. Scaring decision makers with technical issues and instability is a pretty big nono.
    - nextlevelwizard 4y ago
      What company is pulling straight from docker hub anyway? You just blindly trust whatever is there?

atlgator 4y ago

Lots of replies related to image hosting. We still base our containers off the public images provided by docker hub, but our customized images are stored in a private Azure container registry. This is more due to the high security of our environment than anything else. We cannot deploy from external sources.