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The rumour I keep hearing is that it's like the Hunger Games inside Google at the moment. Total chaos and infighting at all levels, investors are freaking out o

The rumour I keep hearing is that it's like the Hunger Games inside Google at the moment. Total chaos and infighting at all levels, investors are freaking out over AI and Bard's middling performance compared to OpenAI and blood is in the water. Sundar may be forced to resign and Larry/Sergei deployed to rescue the company.

GaryNumanVevo 4y ago
+1 except for Larry/Sergei ever returning, I think that ship sailed about 10 years ago
- i_have_an_idea 4y ago
  Yeah, I don't particularly see the value of having the founders back - they haven't been hands on for a real long time.
  - ocdtrekkie 4y ago
    Larry and Sergey are radioactive post-MeToo. I'm not sure how people manage to constantly forget the extent of their misbehavior and misconduct of Harvey Weinstein-level proportions. But it's there, and if they come out of their private island hidey-holes, they will almost certainly get reminded of it, very publicly. Also, they have absolutely no reason to. Both have more money than they could ever spend in several generations of childrens' lifetimes, and barring the absolute worst case scenario, even a moderately mediocre Google will continue to generate absolutely hilarious amounts of wealth for them for a long time to come. Being a has been like IBM or Oracle isn't going to really harm them much at all.
    - KeplerBoy 4y ago
      Money is not the only motivating factor in this world.
    - throwaway9980 4y ago
      > the extent of their misbehavior and misconduct of Harvey Weinstein-level proportions That’s a pretty significant accusation considering Weinstein is rotting in prison for the rest of his likely short existence. I’ve never heard any of this except maybe one of them had an affair. Can you pull some of this out of the memory hole that it’s apparently been dropped into?
      - ocdtrekkie 4y ago
        It's kinda hard to decide where to start. Probably that Sergey Brin said that the entire point of hiring female employees was to have sex with them. Kinda explains the affair(s) with subordinates. There was the whole bit where after Andy Rubin's sexual harassment situation was uncovered, Larry Page voluntarily pushed to give him an extra $90 on his way out the door as a thank you. There's an absolutely unreal fact that their chief legal officer for heaven's sake broke HR policy, fathered a kid with a subordinate, and when it became public, the subordinate was forced to move departments, rather than penalizing a close accomplice of Larry and Sergey's. Even Eric Schmidt, the freaking "adult in the room" hired to come make the place run professionally, made sure his mistress got a piece of the action and hired her in. This is just the stuff that's already publicly known, that I could run off the top of my head. That entire top level of the company in that era is a radioactive wasteland of outright abuse, and everyone involved are billionaires or near billionaires. If you don't think there's a massive list of women with a bit more courage today to speak about their experiences with that group... Literally the best thing these awful excuses for humans can do is go hide on their private islands and enjoy the 1% of their wealth they can find a way to spend before they die of old age.
- guelo 4y ago
  Larry was the one that killed Eric Schmidt's unbelievably successful run in the 00's with his "more wood behind fewer arrows" and the elevation of PMs over engineers.
  - margorczynski 4y ago
    You mean he led the MBAfication of Google? So Schmidt was more of the geek-idealist?
antondd 4y ago
Time to layoff 50,000 employees and announce another stock buy back to prop up the share price for <24 hours
- NovaDudely 4y ago
  I see you are looking to apply for the CEO position...
- jack_riminton 4y ago
  This guys got management written all over him. Sadly this is exactly what Google has become, a rent seeking monolopy that rested on its laurels about 10 years ago. It’s main product now is not even search, it’s the share price
- hcrisp 4y ago
  Time to prepare three envelopes: https://kevinkruse.com/the-ceo-and-the-three-envelopes/ https://kevinkruse.com/the-ceo-and-the-three-envelopes/
kubb 4y ago
LMAO, sounds like fun
i_have_an_idea 4y ago
Well, Sundar and Google leadership have been massively outmaneuvered here by both Nadella and OpenAI. It's really quite embarrassing, particularly in the context of the fact that Google was the undisputed leader in AI for over a decade. As a Alphabet shareholder, I won't be sad to see Sundar go.
- faeriechangling 4y ago
  Is Sundar a bad CEO or merely a mediocre one though? Who would replace him that could get the job done where Sundar failed? I think it's easier said than done to stay the undisputed leader in AI for over a decade even if your leadership is above-average. Still Sundar is mediocre at best, and I certainly think Google's shareholders should be looking for a new person to run the place. It's not just AI, Google's entire portfolio has weakened.
  - johnthescott 4y ago
    jeff dean, would have my vote? https://research.google/people/jeff/ https://research.google/people/jeff/
    - hcrisp 4y ago
      That's who I thought of, but how can he go from leading the AI department which is behind to leading the company with AI ahead of the competition?
  - ipaddr 4y ago
    Half the people on here have as much or more vision
  - bobsil1 4y ago
    Has no CS background, studied material sci → consulting → Google PM https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundar_Pichai https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundar_Pichai
    - 4y ago
in3d 4y ago
Sundar should be fired. Google has blown its lead in AI research by being too hesitant to release products, while search quality has continued to decline. Bard is poor compared to ChatGPT 3.5, let alone GPT-4.
- VirusNewbie 4y ago
  Internal Bard is at least as good as ChatGPT 3.5
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    If that’s true, Google is doing themselves a huge PR disservice by exposing the Bard they have exposed instead of something closer to the internal one. Yes, I understand the resources and scaling issue, so (1) Google should recognize that this is literally for all the marbles, and (2) done a slower roll-out with its best foot forward if it needed to rush, while at the same time putting as much money as necessary into assuring it could scale out the good model widely. Google is a trillion+ dollar company, and is facing an existential threat to its core business (because if someone else’s AI is how people interact with the web, the Google’s ads business evaporates with no replacement; if Google is at least competitive on AI, it may still lose its ads business, but it will have something.) Now is not the time to be cheap.
  - cushychicken 4y ago
    That’s cool. When are they planning to sunset it? If you tell us that then we know they’re actually planning to release it. :)
    - rvnx 4y ago
      Different people asked Bard about it: https://twitter.com/killedbygoogle/status/1638311005024387072 https://twitter.com/killedbygoogle/status/163831100502438707... or "It is currently uncertain when Google Bard will be shutdown, as Google has not announced a specific date. However, given the recent announcement that Google will be shutting down its AI-powered writing tool after less than six months since its launch, it is likely that Google Bard will be shutdown within the next year."
antipaul 4y ago
Need a wartime CEO, right? https://a16z.com/2011/04/14/peacetime-ceo-wartime-ceo/ https://a16z.com/2011/04/14/peacetime-ceo-wartime-ceo/ Although personally, I’m not seeing chatGPT bulldoze the world just yet. They need to monetize it, which means ads. Are they better at ads than the others? It’s not a given Is it ok to predict that, like so many things before, the noise of chatGPT will die out more quickly than we imagine?
- sammoore 4y ago
  > They need to monetize it, which means ads. Why ads? Seems like they're going the service route. Are you predicting them to start targeting the masses and build search/assistants/etc?
- IanCal 4y ago
  > They need to monetize it, What's wrong with the current approach of just selling access?
- pwinnski 4y ago
  It definitely doesn't mean ads, and introducing ads would be a mistake. They will likely lower the limits on free use once they're ready to handle a huge influx of paid users. They are in a tough spot temporarily ramping up things enough to take the limits of paid accounts, and since they can't onboard everybody they're being generous with the free tier, but that will end.
- WXLCKNO 4y ago
  I'm sure this internet thing will die out too.
- woeirua 4y ago
  GPT4s killer revenue stream isn't selling ads on keyword searches. It's selling access to a general compute engine that can take text and do useful things with it. The API is dead simple to use, and all you have to do is just change a line of text to "upgrade" to the newest models over time. (By the way, the upgrade from ChatGPT -> GPT4 is huge). Google should be deathly afraid of this. Not because Microsoft is going to replace them with Bing. But because, GPT is going to be in every major software product that's connected to the internet within a few years. By the end of the decade if not sooner agents powered by LLMs will be the primary mode of interacting with the internet. Going to Google.com or whatever to search for an answer is done. You'll just ask Siri 3.0 and the answer will be good enough.
ocdtrekkie 4y ago
A small local business's profile account got marketing mail from Google encouraging the business to sign up to try Bard. I've never seen Google mass mail to business profiles outside of the time they tried to get everyone to join their astroturfed anti-regulation group to complain about antitrust law. It's so shockingly rare for them to use mass mail to advertise a new product, especially one that's in such an early stage, that it seems incredibly desperate to sell the narrative "We can AI too".
- samgtx 4y ago
  I received this email and figured hey, having an account for 15 years is finally paying off. But they just stuck me on a waitlist. I didn't even have a microsoft account when I tried to sign up for bing, and was accepted off the waitlist right away. So??? Good job google.
nirav72 4y ago
The thing that I don’t understand is that google had every advantage in this AI race. They have the largest amount of training data than anyone. Not just internet data. But also geospatial data, video, images and books. Among other collected data. Including a huge lead and deep pockets for research. Yet, somehow they got caught off guard.
- cowthulhu 4y ago
  That’s what kills me about this. They’re like, the kings of data - they’ve got (arguably) the best web scraper, as well as tons and tons of compute and consumer data. And some company famous for making a DOTA bot beat them to the punch by a huge margin? That’s pretty pathetic IMHO.
  - techmba 4y ago
    i assume googlers are busy estimating golfballs, answering trick sql questions, and asking each other DEI questions all day. Their PM interviews seem to imply that. Ive never seen a company with that many people resting and vesting ever. I have friends who are PMO at google… they have to waste time with each groups bs processes and management overheard in order to move anything along. that company needs a massive purge and focus towards execution. hopefully they can sundar and that cfo. google is a shell of what it once was.
- gniv 4y ago
  Execs were too conservative and didn't realize the potential. They had a chatbot years ago but didn't release it. See for example this article: https://www.businessinsider.com/google-ai-chatbot-chatgpt-years-ago-execs-shut-down-report-2023-3?r=US&IR=T https://www.businessinsider.com/google-ai-chatbot-chatgpt-ye... (Noam Shazeer is one of the authors of the Transformer paper.)
magicalist 4y ago
> investors are freaking out over AI and Bard's middling performance Investors are generally the last people you want to go to for advice, but the stock market clearly disagrees with your rumor (was it from blind or reddit?). To me it's clear search isn't where the exciting LLM stuff is (at least not yet), and this article indicates users feel the same way (+15.8% for Bing, +-0% for Google). Even the hn echo chamber doesn't really care that much about Bing search, they mostly care about Sydney, jailbreaks, etc, which is why the neutering into a better behaved search product pissed people off so much. ChatGPT plugins, Copilot (X), this is where the interesting stuff is today. Google's late again on that, but a) just barely and b) Google Cloud is already a distant third place. Unlike search, they don't have to beat the world or kill any golden goose to have a win in that space (they just have to actually ship something).
whywhywhywhy 4y ago
Should have happened sooner. Even the basics google search and google image search are trash compared to Yandex, god damn Yandex of all things outperforms them. Google has rested on past success to long and rotted good products to dysfunction
- nness 4y ago
  Yandex's image search is fantastic. I don't think its a capability thing, however. Google was and probably remains a big target for lawsuits — where as Yandex... whose really going to want to fight copyright violations in Russia.
partiallypro 4y ago
On a related note, I wonder how soon we'll see a "copilot" for Microsoft Azure that does deployments etc using AI, even piping it into Azure CLI.
- danielbln 4y ago
  Not long I bet, the DevOps space is ripe for automation.
jonplackett 4y ago
Whenever there’s a big shift like this it’s always tempting to look at the new thing as say how great it is - and ChatGPT is awesome. But it’s also worth looking at how shit the old thing has become. Google.com now literally delivers you an entire page of ads before any real results. It’s blatant profit-squeezing instead of trying to serve their users. This is their reward.
- szundi 4y ago
  Very much agreed. Let me add that in more and more topics you can only find bogus/fake rating sites now, like car tires in my country for example.
- akomtu 4y ago
  CorpGPTs will follow the same path, but in addition to spamming us with ads, it will school us to straighten our wrongthink.
- bboygravity 4y ago
  It's like Altavista where the search box was literally surrounded by ads before they died, lol.
- nneonneo 4y ago
  Or how Google now aggressively autocorrects search queries, to the point where I’m regularly spending 3-4 queries just trying to convince Google to accept the input as-is. I get that it’s likely an effort to assist mobile users who make lots of typos, but the fact that the same autocorrection is deployed on desktop computers rubs me the wrong way.
  - trympet 4y ago
    This has been a major pain point for me as well, especially related to developer documentation. Recently switched to Bing, and it seems to be handling my queries better.
  - int_19h 4y ago
    What's truly horrifying, and cannot be explained by "mobile", is that they autocorrect quoted words and phrases quite often now, if query has "too few results" (one of which is exactly what you need, of course, which is why you used the quotes in the first place...).
mmahemoff 4y ago
What makes you say investors freaking out? Maybe they should be, but Alphabet stock is up 18% in the past month and up 7% in past 6 months, the period when GPT began to be hyped.
m12k 4y ago
I'm getting strong Hooli "get me a middle-out compression algorithm - we go live in 1.5 months" vibes from Google when it comes to Bard. It's amazing how relevant and prescient the tv show Silicon Valley can be even to this day.

GaryNumanVevo 4y ago

+1 except for Larry/Sergei ever returning, I think that ship sailed about 10 years ago

i_have_an_idea 4y ago
Yeah, I don't particularly see the value of having the founders back - they haven't been hands on for a real long time.
- ocdtrekkie 4y ago
  Larry and Sergey are radioactive post-MeToo. I'm not sure how people manage to constantly forget the extent of their misbehavior and misconduct of Harvey Weinstein-level proportions. But it's there, and if they come out of their private island hidey-holes, they will almost certainly get reminded of it, very publicly. Also, they have absolutely no reason to. Both have more money than they could ever spend in several generations of childrens' lifetimes, and barring the absolute worst case scenario, even a moderately mediocre Google will continue to generate absolutely hilarious amounts of wealth for them for a long time to come. Being a has been like IBM or Oracle isn't going to really harm them much at all.
  - KeplerBoy 4y ago
    Money is not the only motivating factor in this world.
  - throwaway9980 4y ago
    > the extent of their misbehavior and misconduct of Harvey Weinstein-level proportions That’s a pretty significant accusation considering Weinstein is rotting in prison for the rest of his likely short existence. I’ve never heard any of this except maybe one of them had an affair. Can you pull some of this out of the memory hole that it’s apparently been dropped into?
    - ocdtrekkie 4y ago
      It's kinda hard to decide where to start. Probably that Sergey Brin said that the entire point of hiring female employees was to have sex with them. Kinda explains the affair(s) with subordinates. There was the whole bit where after Andy Rubin's sexual harassment situation was uncovered, Larry Page voluntarily pushed to give him an extra $90 on his way out the door as a thank you. There's an absolutely unreal fact that their chief legal officer for heaven's sake broke HR policy, fathered a kid with a subordinate, and when it became public, the subordinate was forced to move departments, rather than penalizing a close accomplice of Larry and Sergey's. Even Eric Schmidt, the freaking "adult in the room" hired to come make the place run professionally, made sure his mistress got a piece of the action and hired her in. This is just the stuff that's already publicly known, that I could run off the top of my head. That entire top level of the company in that era is a radioactive wasteland of outright abuse, and everyone involved are billionaires or near billionaires. If you don't think there's a massive list of women with a bit more courage today to speak about their experiences with that group... Literally the best thing these awful excuses for humans can do is go hide on their private islands and enjoy the 1% of their wealth they can find a way to spend before they die of old age.
guelo 4y ago
Larry was the one that killed Eric Schmidt's unbelievably successful run in the 00's with his "more wood behind fewer arrows" and the elevation of PMs over engineers.
- margorczynski 4y ago
  You mean he led the MBAfication of Google? So Schmidt was more of the geek-idealist?

antondd 4y ago

Time to layoff 50,000 employees and announce another stock buy back to prop up the share price for <24 hours

NovaDudely 4y ago
I see you are looking to apply for the CEO position...
jack_riminton 4y ago
This guys got management written all over him. Sadly this is exactly what Google has become, a rent seeking monolopy that rested on its laurels about 10 years ago. It’s main product now is not even search, it’s the share price
hcrisp 4y ago
Time to prepare three envelopes: https://kevinkruse.com/the-ceo-and-the-three-envelopes/ https://kevinkruse.com/the-ceo-and-the-three-envelopes/

kubb 4y ago

LMAO, sounds like fun

i_have_an_idea 4y ago

Well, Sundar and Google leadership have been massively outmaneuvered here by both Nadella and OpenAI. It's really quite embarrassing, particularly in the context of the fact that Google was the undisputed leader in AI for over a decade. As a Alphabet shareholder, I won't be sad to see Sundar go.

faeriechangling 4y ago
Is Sundar a bad CEO or merely a mediocre one though? Who would replace him that could get the job done where Sundar failed? I think it's easier said than done to stay the undisputed leader in AI for over a decade even if your leadership is above-average. Still Sundar is mediocre at best, and I certainly think Google's shareholders should be looking for a new person to run the place. It's not just AI, Google's entire portfolio has weakened.
- johnthescott 4y ago
  jeff dean, would have my vote? https://research.google/people/jeff/ https://research.google/people/jeff/
  - hcrisp 4y ago
    That's who I thought of, but how can he go from leading the AI department which is behind to leading the company with AI ahead of the competition?
- ipaddr 4y ago
  Half the people on here have as much or more vision
- bobsil1 4y ago
  Has no CS background, studied material sci → consulting → Google PM https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundar_Pichai https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundar_Pichai
  - 4y ago

in3d 4y ago

Sundar should be fired. Google has blown its lead in AI research by being too hesitant to release products, while search quality has continued to decline. Bard is poor compared to ChatGPT 3.5, let alone GPT-4.

VirusNewbie 4y ago
Internal Bard is at least as good as ChatGPT 3.5
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  If that’s true, Google is doing themselves a huge PR disservice by exposing the Bard they have exposed instead of something closer to the internal one. Yes, I understand the resources and scaling issue, so (1) Google should recognize that this is literally for all the marbles, and (2) done a slower roll-out with its best foot forward if it needed to rush, while at the same time putting as much money as necessary into assuring it could scale out the good model widely. Google is a trillion+ dollar company, and is facing an existential threat to its core business (because if someone else’s AI is how people interact with the web, the Google’s ads business evaporates with no replacement; if Google is at least competitive on AI, it may still lose its ads business, but it will have something.) Now is not the time to be cheap.
- cushychicken 4y ago
  That’s cool. When are they planning to sunset it? If you tell us that then we know they’re actually planning to release it. :)
  - rvnx 4y ago
    Different people asked Bard about it: https://twitter.com/killedbygoogle/status/1638311005024387072 https://twitter.com/killedbygoogle/status/163831100502438707... or "It is currently uncertain when Google Bard will be shutdown, as Google has not announced a specific date. However, given the recent announcement that Google will be shutting down its AI-powered writing tool after less than six months since its launch, it is likely that Google Bard will be shutdown within the next year."

antipaul 4y ago

Need a wartime CEO, right? https://a16z.com/2011/04/14/peacetime-ceo-wartime-ceo/ https://a16z.com/2011/04/14/peacetime-ceo-wartime-ceo/ Although personally, I’m not seeing chatGPT bulldoze the world just yet. They need to monetize it, which means ads. Are they better at ads than the others? It’s not a given Is it ok to predict that, like so many things before, the noise of chatGPT will die out more quickly than we imagine?

sammoore 4y ago
> They need to monetize it, which means ads. Why ads? Seems like they're going the service route. Are you predicting them to start targeting the masses and build search/assistants/etc?
IanCal 4y ago
> They need to monetize it, What's wrong with the current approach of just selling access?
pwinnski 4y ago
It definitely doesn't mean ads, and introducing ads would be a mistake. They will likely lower the limits on free use once they're ready to handle a huge influx of paid users. They are in a tough spot temporarily ramping up things enough to take the limits of paid accounts, and since they can't onboard everybody they're being generous with the free tier, but that will end.
WXLCKNO 4y ago
I'm sure this internet thing will die out too.
woeirua 4y ago
GPT4s killer revenue stream isn't selling ads on keyword searches. It's selling access to a general compute engine that can take text and do useful things with it. The API is dead simple to use, and all you have to do is just change a line of text to "upgrade" to the newest models over time. (By the way, the upgrade from ChatGPT -> GPT4 is huge). Google should be deathly afraid of this. Not because Microsoft is going to replace them with Bing. But because, GPT is going to be in every major software product that's connected to the internet within a few years. By the end of the decade if not sooner agents powered by LLMs will be the primary mode of interacting with the internet. Going to Google.com or whatever to search for an answer is done. You'll just ask Siri 3.0 and the answer will be good enough.

ocdtrekkie 4y ago

A small local business's profile account got marketing mail from Google encouraging the business to sign up to try Bard. I've never seen Google mass mail to business profiles outside of the time they tried to get everyone to join their astroturfed anti-regulation group to complain about antitrust law. It's so shockingly rare for them to use mass mail to advertise a new product, especially one that's in such an early stage, that it seems incredibly desperate to sell the narrative "We can AI too".

samgtx 4y ago
I received this email and figured hey, having an account for 15 years is finally paying off. But they just stuck me on a waitlist. I didn't even have a microsoft account when I tried to sign up for bing, and was accepted off the waitlist right away. So??? Good job google.

nirav72 4y ago

The thing that I don’t understand is that google had every advantage in this AI race. They have the largest amount of training data than anyone. Not just internet data. But also geospatial data, video, images and books. Among other collected data. Including a huge lead and deep pockets for research. Yet, somehow they got caught off guard.

cowthulhu 4y ago
That’s what kills me about this. They’re like, the kings of data - they’ve got (arguably) the best web scraper, as well as tons and tons of compute and consumer data. And some company famous for making a DOTA bot beat them to the punch by a huge margin? That’s pretty pathetic IMHO.
- techmba 4y ago
  i assume googlers are busy estimating golfballs, answering trick sql questions, and asking each other DEI questions all day. Their PM interviews seem to imply that. Ive never seen a company with that many people resting and vesting ever. I have friends who are PMO at google… they have to waste time with each groups bs processes and management overheard in order to move anything along. that company needs a massive purge and focus towards execution. hopefully they can sundar and that cfo. google is a shell of what it once was.
gniv 4y ago
Execs were too conservative and didn't realize the potential. They had a chatbot years ago but didn't release it. See for example this article: https://www.businessinsider.com/google-ai-chatbot-chatgpt-years-ago-execs-shut-down-report-2023-3?r=US&IR=T https://www.businessinsider.com/google-ai-chatbot-chatgpt-ye... (Noam Shazeer is one of the authors of the Transformer paper.)

magicalist 4y ago

> investors are freaking out over AI and Bard's middling performance Investors are generally the last people you want to go to for advice, but the stock market clearly disagrees with your rumor (was it from blind or reddit?). To me it's clear search isn't where the exciting LLM stuff is (at least not yet), and this article indicates users feel the same way (+15.8% for Bing, +-0% for Google). Even the hn echo chamber doesn't really care that much about Bing search, they mostly care about Sydney, jailbreaks, etc, which is why the neutering into a better behaved search product pissed people off so much. ChatGPT plugins, Copilot (X), this is where the interesting stuff is today. Google's late again on that, but a) just barely and b) Google Cloud is already a distant third place. Unlike search, they don't have to beat the world or kill any golden goose to have a win in that space (they just have to actually ship something).

whywhywhywhy 4y ago

Should have happened sooner. Even the basics google search and google image search are trash compared to Yandex, god damn Yandex of all things outperforms them. Google has rested on past success to long and rotted good products to dysfunction

nness 4y ago
Yandex's image search is fantastic. I don't think its a capability thing, however. Google was and probably remains a big target for lawsuits — where as Yandex... whose really going to want to fight copyright violations in Russia.

partiallypro 4y ago

On a related note, I wonder how soon we'll see a "copilot" for Microsoft Azure that does deployments etc using AI, even piping it into Azure CLI.

danielbln 4y ago
Not long I bet, the DevOps space is ripe for automation.

jonplackett 4y ago

Whenever there’s a big shift like this it’s always tempting to look at the new thing as say how great it is - and ChatGPT is awesome. But it’s also worth looking at how shit the old thing has become. Google.com now literally delivers you an entire page of ads before any real results. It’s blatant profit-squeezing instead of trying to serve their users. This is their reward.

szundi 4y ago
Very much agreed. Let me add that in more and more topics you can only find bogus/fake rating sites now, like car tires in my country for example.
akomtu 4y ago
CorpGPTs will follow the same path, but in addition to spamming us with ads, it will school us to straighten our wrongthink.
bboygravity 4y ago
It's like Altavista where the search box was literally surrounded by ads before they died, lol.
nneonneo 4y ago
Or how Google now aggressively autocorrects search queries, to the point where I’m regularly spending 3-4 queries just trying to convince Google to accept the input as-is. I get that it’s likely an effort to assist mobile users who make lots of typos, but the fact that the same autocorrection is deployed on desktop computers rubs me the wrong way.
- trympet 4y ago
  This has been a major pain point for me as well, especially related to developer documentation. Recently switched to Bing, and it seems to be handling my queries better.
- int_19h 4y ago
  What's truly horrifying, and cannot be explained by "mobile", is that they autocorrect quoted words and phrases quite often now, if query has "too few results" (one of which is exactly what you need, of course, which is why you used the quotes in the first place...).

mmahemoff 4y ago

What makes you say investors freaking out? Maybe they should be, but Alphabet stock is up 18% in the past month and up 7% in past 6 months, the period when GPT began to be hyped.

m12k 4y ago

I'm getting strong Hooli "get me a middle-out compression algorithm - we go live in 1.5 months" vibes from Google when it comes to Bard. It's amazing how relevant and prescient the tv show Silicon Valley can be even to this day.