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> The principal said she was not given a reason she was asked to resign, but believes complaints the school board received from parents over the lesson on the M

> The principal said she was not given a reason she was asked to resign, but believes complaints the school board received from parents over the lesson on the Michelangelo statue played a role in what happened. So, did she do everything else right and was fired for just a single controversial lesson? Or was this complaint just one of dozens of other things that parents were complaining about and it just 'played a role'? We never seem to get the whole story when it comes to sensationalized articles like this one.

jjulius 4y ago
Psst, scroll down to the second paragraph after that... >Barney Bishop III, the chair of the school board and a lobbyist, confirmed to The Post that he gave Carrasquilla an ultimatum following complaints from three parents who believed the material on “David” was “controversial” and not age-appropriate for their children. Bishop, who did not give a reason he asked for Carrasquilla to resign on the advice of the school’s lawyers, told The Post that there were several issues with the principal, including not notifying parents ahead of time that their children would be shown the Renaissance art. >“She wasn’t let go because of the artistic nude pictures. We show it every year to our students,” Bishop said, adding that Carrasquilla “voluntarily resigned.” “The problem with this particular issue was the lack of follow-through on the process.”
- falcolas 4y ago
  > “voluntarily resigned.” Huh. what I read was it was the choice between resigning or be fired. Doesn't seem very voluntary, but it does give everyone a fig leaf to cover the questionable bits with.
  - ceejayoz 4y ago
    > what I read was it was the choice between resigning or be fired That's what "voluntarily resigned" typically means.
    - arcastroe 4y ago
      Does the "choice" have any tangible difference? Or is it mostly for optics/headlines?
      - falcolas 4y ago
        Generally optics. In some cases, it also lets the "retiree" keep many of their benefits (though in its own way that removes choice too).
ok_dad 4y ago
> We never seem to get the whole story when it comes to sensationalized articles like this one. So what is it? We don't have the whole story, or the article is sensationalized? You can't have both at once, you need to first show some shred of evidence that there's anything more to the story than, "teacher is fired for showing art that had a penis to schoolchildren."
- didgetmaster 4y ago
  >“She wasn’t let go because of the artistic nude pictures. We show it every year to our students,” Bishop said, adding that Carrasquilla “voluntarily resigned.” “The problem with this particular issue was the lack of follow-through on the process.” So why wasn't this in the first paragraph? I thought the article was sensationalized because of what it lead with, while leaving any counter-arguments toward the bottom.
sharemywin 4y ago
The principle was supposed to send a letter to the parents which didn't happen. I believe the law in florida is about notify parents so, there might be some potential legal problems for the school. I wish democrats would engage in this issue. I believe parents do have rights regarding what types of things they're children are exposed to and/or not exposed to based on age. (don't get me started on the hap hazard parental controls for the internet) Even just knowing what was cover so you can help your kid with their homework. usually, I can figure stuff out if I have access to it, but once sentence usually isn't enough.
- falcolas 4y ago
  > I wish democrats would engage in this issue. It's a private school, and their charter points more specifically at "Christian Private School", so you're not going to find a lot of left-leaning voters who will legitimately have any say in what the school does.
  - xp84 4y ago
    Isn't this a charter school? Charters are public. Of course it does sound like it has what some people would describe as a thinly-veiled Christian agenda, but as I understand it, a charter is under the jurisdiction of the school board, which is elected. I think GP here was saying was more that in general, if the left is fighting against issues that are purely about notification, it's likely a losing battle and they should probably accept/embrace 'parental notification' which has its upsides, and move on to more productive battles.
- thwayunion 4y ago
  > I wish democrats would engage in this issue But teacher and admin time isn't free. People with high political media engagement have lost their damn minds and are now offended about everything. Including thousand year old statues, apparently. No one gives a shit if your pull your kid out of a class, but everyone -- including LOTS of clued-in conservatives -- are sick of teachers/admins/boards spending too much time holding the hands of parents who spend too much time reading political news and not enough time working on their emotional regulation skills. If you want to control what your kid sees, YOU need to do more work. If you want more information, YOU need to review your kid's materials. If you want access to more than every other parent is provided, then YOU need to do the work of getting that material and deciding what your kid will see. It's called parenting. If you want to curate your kid's educational experience, then put in the fucking work and stop demanding use of my tax dollars and my kid's instructional time to satiate your neuroses. (Also: your innocent little middle school angel is definitely talking about boobies and balls recess.... because, y'know, they're middle schoolers and that is what middle schoolers do. But we'll pretend they don't as long as you stop stealing time and money from us.) > don't get me started on the hap hazard parental controls for the internet You can buy all sorts of software, but no amount of law or regulation is going to solve the problem of the internet being the internet.

jjulius 4y ago

Psst, scroll down to the second paragraph after that... >Barney Bishop III, the chair of the school board and a lobbyist, confirmed to The Post that he gave Carrasquilla an ultimatum following complaints from three parents who believed the material on “David” was “controversial” and not age-appropriate for their children. Bishop, who did not give a reason he asked for Carrasquilla to resign on the advice of the school’s lawyers, told The Post that there were several issues with the principal, including not notifying parents ahead of time that their children would be shown the Renaissance art. >“She wasn’t let go because of the artistic nude pictures. We show it every year to our students,” Bishop said, adding that Carrasquilla “voluntarily resigned.” “The problem with this particular issue was the lack of follow-through on the process.”

falcolas 4y ago
> “voluntarily resigned.” Huh. what I read was it was the choice between resigning or be fired. Doesn't seem very voluntary, but it does give everyone a fig leaf to cover the questionable bits with.
- ceejayoz 4y ago
  > what I read was it was the choice between resigning or be fired That's what "voluntarily resigned" typically means.
  - arcastroe 4y ago
    Does the "choice" have any tangible difference? Or is it mostly for optics/headlines?
    - falcolas 4y ago
      Generally optics. In some cases, it also lets the "retiree" keep many of their benefits (though in its own way that removes choice too).

ok_dad 4y ago

> We never seem to get the whole story when it comes to sensationalized articles like this one. So what is it? We don't have the whole story, or the article is sensationalized? You can't have both at once, you need to first show some shred of evidence that there's anything more to the story than, "teacher is fired for showing art that had a penis to schoolchildren."

didgetmaster 4y ago
>“She wasn’t let go because of the artistic nude pictures. We show it every year to our students,” Bishop said, adding that Carrasquilla “voluntarily resigned.” “The problem with this particular issue was the lack of follow-through on the process.” So why wasn't this in the first paragraph? I thought the article was sensationalized because of what it lead with, while leaving any counter-arguments toward the bottom.

sharemywin 4y ago

The principle was supposed to send a letter to the parents which didn't happen. I believe the law in florida is about notify parents so, there might be some potential legal problems for the school. I wish democrats would engage in this issue. I believe parents do have rights regarding what types of things they're children are exposed to and/or not exposed to based on age. (don't get me started on the hap hazard parental controls for the internet) Even just knowing what was cover so you can help your kid with their homework. usually, I can figure stuff out if I have access to it, but once sentence usually isn't enough.

falcolas 4y ago
> I wish democrats would engage in this issue. It's a private school, and their charter points more specifically at "Christian Private School", so you're not going to find a lot of left-leaning voters who will legitimately have any say in what the school does.
- xp84 4y ago
  Isn't this a charter school? Charters are public. Of course it does sound like it has what some people would describe as a thinly-veiled Christian agenda, but as I understand it, a charter is under the jurisdiction of the school board, which is elected. I think GP here was saying was more that in general, if the left is fighting against issues that are purely about notification, it's likely a losing battle and they should probably accept/embrace 'parental notification' which has its upsides, and move on to more productive battles.
thwayunion 4y ago
> I wish democrats would engage in this issue But teacher and admin time isn't free. People with high political media engagement have lost their damn minds and are now offended about everything. Including thousand year old statues, apparently. No one gives a shit if your pull your kid out of a class, but everyone -- including LOTS of clued-in conservatives -- are sick of teachers/admins/boards spending too much time holding the hands of parents who spend too much time reading political news and not enough time working on their emotional regulation skills. If you want to control what your kid sees, YOU need to do more work. If you want more information, YOU need to review your kid's materials. If you want access to more than every other parent is provided, then YOU need to do the work of getting that material and deciding what your kid will see. It's called parenting. If you want to curate your kid's educational experience, then put in the fucking work and stop demanding use of my tax dollars and my kid's instructional time to satiate your neuroses. (Also: your innocent little middle school angel is definitely talking about boobies and balls recess.... because, y'know, they're middle schoolers and that is what middle schoolers do. But we'll pretend they don't as long as you stop stealing time and money from us.) > don't get me started on the hap hazard parental controls for the internet You can buy all sorts of software, but no amount of law or regulation is going to solve the problem of the internet being the internet.