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But what can replace Google? Is there another search engine with stunningly relevant results like the early days of Google?

by _hypx 4y ago

AviationAtom 4y ago
Bing is on it's way in that direction. Microsoft needed something big to make Bing relevant again. This could potentially be it. Will they eat all of Google's lunch? Probably not, but if they can begin to chip away at the insane share (93%+) of the marketplace that Google controls, then it can only be for the betterment of the Internet.
- _hypx 4y ago
  Bing doesn't seem any better than Google though. I was thinking of something that gives you a dramatically superior result than Google.
  - collaborative 4y ago
    I created aisearch.vip which searches using bing api, removes results containing ads or seo junk, and uses openai to summarize content to void clickbait. I believe that this is the only way to get the 0-4 good results hiding in the top 20 results. It's paid because it costs to run. But to be honest I myself am a fan of what phind is doing. Just can't understand how they are able to cover costs yet
  - AviationAtom 4y ago
    Microsoft is really still in their infancy of building out their end vision for AI in search. Right now it's roughly a chat bot that summarizes and gives references, without really tying into their core search well. Eventually it will negate the need to click through to many reference, then it will be better able to curate a list of alternative sources for what you seek. I think that's the big problem with AI as it stands now, people think we've already reached the end of the road, when really we're only at the beginning of it. Watch and see what the next decade of it looks like. I agree with Bill Gates that it all will fundamentally changed the way we see and interact with the world (for the better).
    - chrsig 4y ago
      > Eventually it will negate the need to click through to many reference, then it will be better able to curate a list of alternative sources for what you seek. Doesn't that just kind of describe google now though?
      - AviationAtom 4y ago
        I poorly worded that. I meant to say it will be able to answer most questions, but also refer you to the best sources for information that it can't provide.
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ramenbytes 4y ago
I've been impressed with what Kagi is able to dig up for me on old and sometimes niche electronics test and measurement equipment. However, I don't think they are targeting the same set of users that early Google was. Among other things, you have to pay for Kagi.
JohnFen 4y ago
No, but there are other search engines that aren't any worse than Google. And, apparently depending on the style of your search terms or what you're searching for, one or two are better. I get noticeably better results from DDG, but I know that a lot of other people don't. I can only speculate that the difference must be search terms or topics.
- AviationAtom 4y ago
  I made DDG my default and was surprised by how well it works how. I do believe it sources many of it's results from Bing. For what it fails to find well I just prepend !g to my query and have it bounce me over to Google. Google results are more often then not trash now, so I don't think the bar is too high for competitors now.
  - JohnFen 4y ago
    > I do believe it sources many of it's results from Bing. It does, yes, but not only Bing. At least report, it aggregates from about 400 different sources, and they also run their own crawler. They used to have a list of the other engines they use, but I can't seem to find it anymore.

But what can replace Google? Is there another search engine with stunningly relevant results like the early days of Google?

by _hypx 4y ago

But what can replace Google? Is there another search engine with stunningly relevant results like the early days of Google?

AviationAtom 4y ago

Bing is on it's way in that direction. Microsoft needed something big to make Bing relevant again. This could potentially be it. Will they eat all of Google's lunch? Probably not, but if they can begin to chip away at the insane share (93%+) of the marketplace that Google controls, then it can only be for the betterment of the Internet.

_hypx 4y ago
Bing doesn't seem any better than Google though. I was thinking of something that gives you a dramatically superior result than Google.
- collaborative 4y ago
  I created aisearch.vip which searches using bing api, removes results containing ads or seo junk, and uses openai to summarize content to void clickbait. I believe that this is the only way to get the 0-4 good results hiding in the top 20 results. It's paid because it costs to run. But to be honest I myself am a fan of what phind is doing. Just can't understand how they are able to cover costs yet
- AviationAtom 4y ago
  Microsoft is really still in their infancy of building out their end vision for AI in search. Right now it's roughly a chat bot that summarizes and gives references, without really tying into their core search well. Eventually it will negate the need to click through to many reference, then it will be better able to curate a list of alternative sources for what you seek. I think that's the big problem with AI as it stands now, people think we've already reached the end of the road, when really we're only at the beginning of it. Watch and see what the next decade of it looks like. I agree with Bill Gates that it all will fundamentally changed the way we see and interact with the world (for the better).
  - chrsig 4y ago
    > Eventually it will negate the need to click through to many reference, then it will be better able to curate a list of alternative sources for what you seek. Doesn't that just kind of describe google now though?
    - AviationAtom 4y ago
      I poorly worded that. I meant to say it will be able to answer most questions, but also refer you to the best sources for information that it can't provide.
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ramenbytes 4y ago

I've been impressed with what Kagi is able to dig up for me on old and sometimes niche electronics test and measurement equipment. However, I don't think they are targeting the same set of users that early Google was. Among other things, you have to pay for Kagi.

JohnFen 4y ago

No, but there are other search engines that aren't any worse than Google. And, apparently depending on the style of your search terms or what you're searching for, one or two are better. I get noticeably better results from DDG, but I know that a lot of other people don't. I can only speculate that the difference must be search terms or topics.

AviationAtom 4y ago
I made DDG my default and was surprised by how well it works how. I do believe it sources many of it's results from Bing. For what it fails to find well I just prepend !g to my query and have it bounce me over to Google. Google results are more often then not trash now, so I don't think the bar is too high for competitors now.
- JohnFen 4y ago
  > I do believe it sources many of it's results from Bing. It does, yes, but not only Bing. At least report, it aggregates from about 400 different sources, and they also run their own crawler. They used to have a list of the other engines they use, but I can't seem to find it anymore.