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A couple of the claims made by the parent don't seem to hold merit: genital mutilation and dildos. I doubt the Bible has an examples of those, but the other cla

by chungy 4y ago

A couple of the claims made by the parent don't seem to hold merit: genital mutilation and dildos. I doubt the Bible has an examples of those, but the other claims, yes it does contain that, always as a negative example of how wicked people act. The negative example aspect is important, because it conveys the intent that such material is included (and mind that even Bibles that contain pictures in them, don't depict those scenes). Rather than something to "get off on", as pornographic material does, it is something to feel disgusted by and thus be dissuaded from engaging in such practice.

olddustytrail 4y ago
I believe the genital mutilation refers to circumcision and the dildos would refer to Ezekiel "you made for yourself male idols and engaged in prostitution with them"
- chungy 4y ago
  That makes sense. I am against involuntary circumcision (and honestly, Christians shouldn't be practicing it anyway :p).
Someone 4y ago
> A couple of the claims made by the parent don't seem to hold merit: genital mutilation and dildos. The impact of female circumcision is a lot higher than that of male circumcision, but IMO both are genital mutilation. As to dildos, Ezekiel 16:17 gets very close. Picking a few translations at random: “Thou hast also taken thy fair jewels made of my gold and of my silver, which I had given thee, and [m]madest to thyself images of men, and didst commit whoredom with them,” (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+16-17&version=GNV https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+16-17&v...) “You also took the fine jewelry I gave you, the jewelry made of my gold and silver, and you made for yourself male idols and engaged in prostitution with them.” (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%2016-17&version=NIV https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%2016-17...) “You also took your beautiful jewels of my gold and my silver that I had given you, and made for yourself male images, and with them played the whore” (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+16-17&version=NRSVACE https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+16-17&v...)
UncleOxidant 4y ago
> A couple of the claims made by the parent don't seem to hold merit: genital mutilation Ummm... circumcision is pretty central in the old testament narrative.
- etrautmann 4y ago
  Central to what?
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    The Bible, both as a positive thing and sometimes connected to negative acts.
  - underintent 4y ago
    Abrahamic religions: > This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised. https://biblehub.com/genesis/17-10.htm https://biblehub.com/genesis/17-10.htm https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions
  - UncleOxidant 4y ago
    Central in the Old Testament narrative.
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insickness 4y ago
There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. Ezekiel 23:20 https://live.bible.is/bible/ENGEVD/EZK/23/20 https://live.bible.is/bible/ENGEVD/EZK/23/20
underintent 4y ago
Dildos: > You also took the fine jewelry I gave you, the jewelry made of my gold and silver, and you made for yourself male idols and engaged in prostitution with them. https://biblehub.com/ezekiel/16-17.htm https://biblehub.com/ezekiel/16-17.htm Genital mutilation: > Saul replied, “Say to David, ‘The king wants no other price for the bride than a hundred Philistine foreskins, to take revenge on his enemies.’” Saul’s plan was to have David fall by the hands of the Philistines. https://biblehub.com/1_samuel/18-25.htm https://biblehub.com/1_samuel/18-25.htm

by chungy 4y ago

olddustytrail 4y ago

I believe the genital mutilation refers to circumcision and the dildos would refer to Ezekiel "you made for yourself male idols and engaged in prostitution with them"

chungy 4y ago
That makes sense. I am against involuntary circumcision (and honestly, Christians shouldn't be practicing it anyway :p).

Someone 4y ago

> A couple of the claims made by the parent don't seem to hold merit: genital mutilation and dildos. The impact of female circumcision is a lot higher than that of male circumcision, but IMO both are genital mutilation. As to dildos, Ezekiel 16:17 gets very close. Picking a few translations at random: “Thou hast also taken thy fair jewels made of my gold and of my silver, which I had given thee, and [m]madest to thyself images of men, and didst commit whoredom with them,” (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+16-17&version=GNV https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+16-17&v...) “You also took the fine jewelry I gave you, the jewelry made of my gold and silver, and you made for yourself male idols and engaged in prostitution with them.” (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%2016-17&version=NIV https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%2016-17...) “You also took your beautiful jewels of my gold and my silver that I had given you, and made for yourself male images, and with them played the whore” (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+16-17&version=NRSVACE https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+16-17&v...)

UncleOxidant 4y ago

> A couple of the claims made by the parent don't seem to hold merit: genital mutilation Ummm... circumcision is pretty central in the old testament narrative.

etrautmann 4y ago
Central to what?
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  The Bible, both as a positive thing and sometimes connected to negative acts.
- underintent 4y ago
  Abrahamic religions: > This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised. https://biblehub.com/genesis/17-10.htm https://biblehub.com/genesis/17-10.htm https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions
- UncleOxidant 4y ago
  Central in the Old Testament narrative.

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insickness 4y ago

There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. Ezekiel 23:20 https://live.bible.is/bible/ENGEVD/EZK/23/20 https://live.bible.is/bible/ENGEVD/EZK/23/20

underintent 4y ago

Dildos: > You also took the fine jewelry I gave you, the jewelry made of my gold and silver, and you made for yourself male idols and engaged in prostitution with them. https://biblehub.com/ezekiel/16-17.htm https://biblehub.com/ezekiel/16-17.htm Genital mutilation: > Saul replied, “Say to David, ‘The king wants no other price for the bride than a hundred Philistine foreskins, to take revenge on his enemies.’” Saul’s plan was to have David fall by the hands of the Philistines. https://biblehub.com/1_samuel/18-25.htm https://biblehub.com/1_samuel/18-25.htm