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Do you believe the same for the US involvment in the ukraine conflict? The wars in the middle east? Vietnam? Korea? and so on? If not, what differences made you

Do you believe the same for the US involvment in the ukraine conflict? The wars in the middle east? Vietnam? Korea? and so on? If not, what differences made you arrive at a different conclusion? To be clear I'm not implying you are wrong in terms of a conflict is being setup with China, just curious if your criticism is consistently applied. Many if not most news outlets are saying exactly what you are, but only make this distinction for China.

imwithstoopid 4y ago
I'm more than happy to go through that list, but I suspect I will be downvoted anyway for merely explaining my own beliefs (which is what you are asking for) - Ukraine - a contrived proxy war and we are very generously and bravely assisting in the avoidable deaths of as many Ukrainians as possible. I'll go even further - neoliberal support in the US is comes from this notion that Trump and Putin are penpals, so if we punch Putin, its like punching Trump - Middle East Wars - worst geopolitical decision since ww2, probably ruined the US forever - Vietnam - a massive mistake...and I mean MISTAKE. this was not evil on the US part, but a legit misunderstanding. We mistook a civil war for a Red Wave - Korea - neutral...but it was the last time we faced off against China militarily and although we massively outgunned them, they probably delivered the single worst military defeat in US history (Chosin Resevoir). By any rational assessment we should have demolished the Chinese, instead they demolished us.
- Atlas22 4y ago
  Thank you for explaining, I certainly wont downvote (not that I know how to anyways). Sorry in advance if you get nuked just for answering my question. Those are certainly opinions that seem consistent to me and are not just the usual parroting of <choose a media outlet> that seems to be so prevalent now. You've restored my faith in the free thinking public just a little bit today, so thanks.

imwithstoopid 4y ago

I'm more than happy to go through that list, but I suspect I will be downvoted anyway for merely explaining my own beliefs (which is what you are asking for) - Ukraine - a contrived proxy war and we are very generously and bravely assisting in the avoidable deaths of as many Ukrainians as possible. I'll go even further - neoliberal support in the US is comes from this notion that Trump and Putin are penpals, so if we punch Putin, its like punching Trump - Middle East Wars - worst geopolitical decision since ww2, probably ruined the US forever - Vietnam - a massive mistake...and I mean MISTAKE. this was not evil on the US part, but a legit misunderstanding. We mistook a civil war for a Red Wave - Korea - neutral...but it was the last time we faced off against China militarily and although we massively outgunned them, they probably delivered the single worst military defeat in US history (Chosin Resevoir). By any rational assessment we should have demolished the Chinese, instead they demolished us.

Atlas22 4y ago
Thank you for explaining, I certainly wont downvote (not that I know how to anyways). Sorry in advance if you get nuked just for answering my question. Those are certainly opinions that seem consistent to me and are not just the usual parroting of <choose a media outlet> that seems to be so prevalent now. You've restored my faith in the free thinking public just a little bit today, so thanks.