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It's a complete bloody mystery and I thought the same thing when I saw their other laptops. I'm sure their target audience uses the cursor keys more than almost

It's a complete bloody mystery and I thought the same thing when I saw their other laptops. I'm sure their target audience uses the cursor keys more than almost every other key, and they've made them those horrible tiny nubs. You could literally fit all four of them into the footprint of that right shift key, the right shift key that I have never even once pressed in 30 years of computing. No matter what else they do, the arrow keys tell me they are fools who should not be trusted! (Hyperbole, sure, but only a little.)

floren 4y ago
I use the arrow keys occasionally, but wouldn't miss them too much if they disappeared. However, because I know how to type, I use the right shift key constantly. Of all the keys to fuss about...
hojjat12000 4y ago
It's a qmk keyboard, you can literally map CapsLock+H/J/K/L to be your arrow keys!
causi 4y ago
Yeah there's quite a bit of disconnect between who Framework imagines their market is and who I think gets excited at the phrase "modular laptop". We care about things like real non-chiclet keyboards, full size arrow keys, mouse buttons. What is the point in buying a Framework when the laptop I already own has as much connectivity as a Framework laptop's entire selection of modules, all at the same time? Framework should've offered things you can't get anywhere else, like a module that's just four USB 2.0 ports in a stack, or a module that's actually a fold-out bluetooth mouse.
- jocaal 4y ago
  That is the advantage of modular devices. If you want something, you can literally make it yourself and slot it into the system. If you fall into the camp of just wanting to buy something that works perfectly out of the box, can you really claim you fall into the camp of the 'people who get excited at the phrase "modular laptop"'?
  - causi 4y ago
    I want something I can't get somewhere else. Being able to make my own modules is cool but there's simply not enough slots to even match my current ultraportable, let alone give me room to experiment.

floren 4y ago

I use the arrow keys occasionally, but wouldn't miss them too much if they disappeared. However, because I know how to type, I use the right shift key constantly. Of all the keys to fuss about...

hojjat12000 4y ago

It's a qmk keyboard, you can literally map CapsLock+H/J/K/L to be your arrow keys!

causi 4y ago

Yeah there's quite a bit of disconnect between who Framework imagines their market is and who I think gets excited at the phrase "modular laptop". We care about things like real non-chiclet keyboards, full size arrow keys, mouse buttons. What is the point in buying a Framework when the laptop I already own has as much connectivity as a Framework laptop's entire selection of modules, all at the same time? Framework should've offered things you can't get anywhere else, like a module that's just four USB 2.0 ports in a stack, or a module that's actually a fold-out bluetooth mouse.

jocaal 4y ago
That is the advantage of modular devices. If you want something, you can literally make it yourself and slot it into the system. If you fall into the camp of just wanting to buy something that works perfectly out of the box, can you really claim you fall into the camp of the 'people who get excited at the phrase "modular laptop"'?
- causi 4y ago
  I want something I can't get somewhere else. Being able to make my own modules is cool but there's simply not enough slots to even match my current ultraportable, let alone give me room to experiment.