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It's a mystery to me how those on the left get to spend so much time focusing on the threat of nazism whilst completely ignoring their own horrific history. I

It's a mystery to me how those on the left get to spend so much time focusing on the threat of nazism whilst completely ignoring their own horrific history. I dont know how they get away with it.

lapcat 4y ago
How would I, as a native born US Midwesterner, view the USSR or the PRC as "my own history"? Not to mention that the USSR and PRC have both transitioned from economic socialism to capitalism while retaining political totalitarianism. So maybe the economic system and the political system are separate issues? There are plenty of countries in western/northern Europe that are more socialist, and indeed more democratic, than the US. It's kind of like asking contemporary Christians how they get away with not focusing on the Spanish Inquisition. Why would someone today view that as "their own horrific history"?
- mcv 4y ago
  The real problem for the oppression and deaths is the totalitarianism, rather than whether it's coming from the left of right. Both left and right-wing dictatorship have the capacity and opportunity for incredible cruelty. Healthy human rights-respecting democracies do not, regardless of their economic policies. Although extreme poverty can also be deadly and could be considered a form of oppression. There are good reasons why workers in capitalist countries fought hard for workers' rights 100 years ago.
- lazyeye 4y ago
  I've no idea what the Spanish inquisition has to do with the clear and obvious tendency towards an oppressive totalitarianism by left-wing movements throughout history. I think you have to be willfully blind to deny this.
  - lapcat 4y ago
    > I think you have to be willfully blind to deny this. In the future, please follow the HN guidelines. I'm done responding to you now. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - lazyeye 4y ago
      An easy out. I stand by my comment completely.
KyeRussell 4y ago
I was going to just write this off as ridiculous whataboutism but it doesn’t do your comment justice. “The Left” frets about nazism because the BS fascist tones of the typical far-right-but-with-mainstream-appeal policy platform bare a far closer resemblance to the left-wing counterpart does to say…communistic dictatorships of times past. Pull your head in.
- lazyeye 4y ago
  To quote the Big Lebowski..."well that's just your opinion man"

It's a mystery to me how those on the left get to spend so much time focusing on the threat of nazism whilst completely ignoring their own horrific history. I dont know how they get away with it.

lapcat 4y ago

How would I, as a native born US Midwesterner, view the USSR or the PRC as "my own history"? Not to mention that the USSR and PRC have both transitioned from economic socialism to capitalism while retaining political totalitarianism. So maybe the economic system and the political system are separate issues? There are plenty of countries in western/northern Europe that are more socialist, and indeed more democratic, than the US. It's kind of like asking contemporary Christians how they get away with not focusing on the Spanish Inquisition. Why would someone today view that as "their own horrific history"?

mcv 4y ago
The real problem for the oppression and deaths is the totalitarianism, rather than whether it's coming from the left of right. Both left and right-wing dictatorship have the capacity and opportunity for incredible cruelty. Healthy human rights-respecting democracies do not, regardless of their economic policies. Although extreme poverty can also be deadly and could be considered a form of oppression. There are good reasons why workers in capitalist countries fought hard for workers' rights 100 years ago.
lazyeye 4y ago
I've no idea what the Spanish inquisition has to do with the clear and obvious tendency towards an oppressive totalitarianism by left-wing movements throughout history. I think you have to be willfully blind to deny this.
- lapcat 4y ago
  > I think you have to be willfully blind to deny this. In the future, please follow the HN guidelines. I'm done responding to you now. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - lazyeye 4y ago
    An easy out. I stand by my comment completely.

KyeRussell 4y ago

I was going to just write this off as ridiculous whataboutism but it doesn’t do your comment justice. “The Left” frets about nazism because the BS fascist tones of the typical far-right-but-with-mainstream-appeal policy platform bare a far closer resemblance to the left-wing counterpart does to say…communistic dictatorships of times past. Pull your head in.

lazyeye 4y ago
To quote the Big Lebowski..."well that's just your opinion man"