They really are bad, I don't think people get the full extent of it until they experience it first hand. I've been in client meetings where the devs (and manag

They really are bad, I don't think people get the full extent of it until they experience it first hand. I've been in client meetings where the devs (and managers) from an offshore Indian consultancy were in. Putting aside the huge language barrier due to the thick accent, they were barely able to comprehend English instructions. And to top it all off, they simply didn't know what they were doing (in this case Salesforce). Literally the thing they were hired as "experts" in, they couldn't do. All with zero shame throughout the whole ordeal. But the cheap price-tag and mountains of hidden technical debt were worth it for the client it seems. After the meeting and talking with the client, I went ahead and assigned a go-getter junior from our side to research and figure out what needed to be done, handed it on a platter to them after a few hours, and they still couldn't figure it out when I asked about it weeks later. What they were experts in, though, is re framing their failings on something or someone else. Instead of "we don't know where to find the API keys for this Salesforce API in the Salesforce GUI (and can't be bothered to google it)", they say "we would like to have a workshop about how you are integrating with our Salesforce API." where they weasel information out of others and make it seem like other parties did something wrong.