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Is this really totally forgotten already?! I mean, I know it was some decade and a half ago, but it was a very big deal. This was my current employers on it, b

Is this really totally forgotten already?! I mean, I know it was some decade and a half ago, but it was a very big deal. This was my current employers on it, but long before I ever wrote for them even as a freelancer: https://www.theregister.com/2006/11/20/microsoft_claims_linux_code https://www.theregister.com/2006/11/20/microsoft_claims_linu... Everyone covered it. It was THE big new story about MS versus Linux. https://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/05/28/100033867/ https://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007... https://www.engadget.com/2007-05-14-microsoft-linux-and-others-violate-235-of-our-patents.html https://www.engadget.com/2007-05-14-microsoft-linux-and-othe... https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2007/05/microsoft-235-patent-specific-patent-infringements-in-linux/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2007/05/microsoft-235-pa... https://www.networkworld.com/article/2355239/microsoft-claims-linux-violates-235-patents.html https://www.networkworld.com/article/2355239/microsoft-claim... It was already a thing back in 2004: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4021775.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4021775.stm

stormking 4y ago
No, this is pure, fabricated nonsense. People involved in those projects, e.g. Miguel de Icaza, have told you numerous times, as have a lot of users who lived through that time. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32258035 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32258035
- lproven 4y ago
  I don't buy it. Among the reasons are: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandy_Rice-Davies#MRDA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandy_Rice-Davies#MRDA * AFAIK, de Icaza was no longer involved by then Additionally, FWIW, it's not "lots of times". But the MS threats are a matter of widespread legal record. This is not some kooky opinion of mine. This happened, it's documented, and the responses are too. For instance, Novell (owners of SUSE then) and Red Hat were specifically named: https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Patent-Suit-Filed-Against-Novell-and-Red-Hat https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Patent-Suit-Filed... RH responded, denying the claims: https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Red-Hat-Calls-Microsoft-Attack-Unsubstantiated https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Red-Hat-Calls-Mic... https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Red-Hat-Seeks-Defense-Against-Patent-Lawsuit https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Red-Hat-Seeks-Def... So did Canonical: https://www.itnews.com.au/news/ubuntu-repels-microsoft-patent-threat-84071 https://www.itnews.com.au/news/ubuntu-repels-microsoft-paten... https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/redhat-ubuntu-linux-rejected-microsoft-patent-deals.html https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/redhat-ubuntu-linux-rejected-... Novell meanwhile signed a patent sharing deal: https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/microsoft-makes-linux-pact-with-novell/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/microsoft-ma... Later extended: https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-and-suse-extend-microsofts-controversial-novell-linux-pact/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-and-suse-extend-micr...

stormking 4y ago

No, this is pure, fabricated nonsense. People involved in those projects, e.g. Miguel de Icaza, have told you numerous times, as have a lot of users who lived through that time. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32258035 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32258035

lproven 4y ago
I don't buy it. Among the reasons are: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandy_Rice-Davies#MRDA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandy_Rice-Davies#MRDA * AFAIK, de Icaza was no longer involved by then Additionally, FWIW, it's not "lots of times". But the MS threats are a matter of widespread legal record. This is not some kooky opinion of mine. This happened, it's documented, and the responses are too. For instance, Novell (owners of SUSE then) and Red Hat were specifically named: https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Patent-Suit-Filed-Against-Novell-and-Red-Hat https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Patent-Suit-Filed... RH responded, denying the claims: https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Red-Hat-Calls-Microsoft-Attack-Unsubstantiated https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Red-Hat-Calls-Mic... https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Red-Hat-Seeks-Defense-Against-Patent-Lawsuit https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Red-Hat-Seeks-Def... So did Canonical: https://www.itnews.com.au/news/ubuntu-repels-microsoft-patent-threat-84071 https://www.itnews.com.au/news/ubuntu-repels-microsoft-paten... https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/redhat-ubuntu-linux-rejected-microsoft-patent-deals.html https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/redhat-ubuntu-linux-rejected-... Novell meanwhile signed a patent sharing deal: https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/microsoft-makes-linux-pact-with-novell/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/microsoft-ma... Later extended: https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-and-suse-extend-microsofts-controversial-novell-linux-pact/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-and-suse-extend-micr...