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> The other serious issue is that each party has a completely unaccountable and opaque system for deciding on a list of representatives. I'm in a FPTP, two-par
by denton-scratch 4y ago
> The other serious issue is that each party has a completely unaccountable and opaque system for deciding on a list of representatives.
I'm in a FPTP, two-party country, and strongly favour PR. But definitely not a PR system based on party list. That looks like the worst of all possible worlds, including FPTP.
- FredPret 4y agoBut how else would you do it though? If the party list is chosen by the people, every voter has to elect hundreds of politicians; or else you need to stratify the country along location or some other dimension and have every stratum vote for one politician. AKA FPTP.
- denton-scratch 4y agoMulti-party constituencies; which entails either many more representatives, or much larger constituencies, both of which are a problem. STV (ranked preference); STV usually means multi-member constituencies. AV/Instant Runoff; that's what I favour. It doesn't require huge constituencies or lots of representatives. It's not really PR though. What I find objectionable about party-list is that the parties choose the candidates, so you can't have independents. The parties also rank the candidates, so you vote for the party, not the candidate. And the party machine can bury a disfavoured candidate at the bottom of their list. I want voters to be able to remove a useless representative that the party wants to keep, without actually assassinating him; you can't do that with party list.