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Alas, it's got a 16:9 screen with its infamous ugly chin :-( I'd like a chinless 16:10 or 3:2 goodness (or 4:3), even if it was at a hefty markup. UPD: it's a

Alas, it's got a 16:9 screen with its infamous ugly chin :-( I'd like a chinless 16:10 or 3:2 goodness (or 4:3), even if it was at a hefty markup. UPD: it's a 16:10 display, but the chin is still ugly.

markstos 4y ago
The chin lefts the screen a bit for better ergonomics.
- WesolyKubeczek 4y ago
  I thought you could have inexpensive laptop stands that also raise the keyboard a bit to the same effect. Try one, they are amazing. And they improve the airflow, too.
  - CarVac 4y ago
    For proper ergonomics you want the keyboard at elbow level and the top of the screen at eye level.
  - markstos 4y ago
    I use a laptop stand at my desk, but a laptop chin helps to not bend the neck so much when the laptop is on a… lap.
notRobot 4y ago
You're wrong. It's a 16:10 screen. CEO: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35280523 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35280523
- Aachen 4y ago
  Ugh. After over a decade of work, everything was finally adapted to or made for 16:9, now they're going after hipster ratios? Not a deal breaker but a bummer. Interesting that phones are going the other way, so now we can enjoy letterboxes on both platforms and not be able to reach the notification drawer. What was so wrong with 16:9 that we needed another competing standard that's just slightly off...
  - Tsiklon 4y ago
    16:10 has been around and relatively popular for at least 17 years. The original 2006 MacBook Pro had a 16:10 1440x900 panel
    - epmaybe 4y ago
      Most if not all MacBooks today are still 16:10 ratio..
      - rsynnott 4y ago
        Strictly speaking they're not; the bit below the notch is, but you get a bit of extra space around the notch to accommodate a menu bar.
    - goosedragons 4y ago
      16:10 goes ALL the way back to some of the earliest widescreen LCDs. The original Apple Cinema Display was 1600x1024 in 1999. This was predated by the SGI 1600SW with the same resolution in 1998.
      - justin66 4y ago
        The Matrox Millenium II supported 1920x1200 in 1997. Manual for the Mac version, but the PC version has this resolution as well: https://www.matrox.com/sites/default/files/en_millennium_ii_mac2_installation_guide.pdf https://www.matrox.com/sites/default/files/en_millennium_ii_...
    - WesolyKubeczek 4y ago
      IIRC it's so since Titanium PowerBooks which were the first to go widescreen at Apple, so it's 2001. Then aluminum PowerBooks with 16:10 screens, too. Intel MacBook Pros continued the trend.
      - rsynnott 4y ago
        ... Wait, really? Huh. I thought the Powerbooks were 4:3 til the end, but yeah, just looked and you're right. (I had a G4 iBook at the time, which was 4:3).
detrites 4y ago
Isn't the point of these that you can modularly customise everything? Or does that not include the screen?
- WesolyKubeczek 4y ago
  You cannot just pop in any panel that you like. The whole assembly needs to accommodate for it. I think your company would have to be obscenely rich to afford such a supply chain so it could offer different display assemblies for the same laptop.
  - detrites 4y ago
    I'd have thought there would be some kind of loose standards that come with the combination of economies of scale and provisions for options for consumers when it comes to existing larger players in the space. Eg, I know some laptop manufacturers offer a choice of a few different display options when configuring builds - so framework choosing the display form-factor of a popular one could be an instant win for modularity.

markstos 4y ago

The chin lefts the screen a bit for better ergonomics.

WesolyKubeczek 4y ago
I thought you could have inexpensive laptop stands that also raise the keyboard a bit to the same effect. Try one, they are amazing. And they improve the airflow, too.
- CarVac 4y ago
  For proper ergonomics you want the keyboard at elbow level and the top of the screen at eye level.
- markstos 4y ago
  I use a laptop stand at my desk, but a laptop chin helps to not bend the neck so much when the laptop is on a… lap.

notRobot 4y ago

You're wrong. It's a 16:10 screen. CEO: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35280523 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35280523

Aachen 4y ago
Ugh. After over a decade of work, everything was finally adapted to or made for 16:9, now they're going after hipster ratios? Not a deal breaker but a bummer. Interesting that phones are going the other way, so now we can enjoy letterboxes on both platforms and not be able to reach the notification drawer. What was so wrong with 16:9 that we needed another competing standard that's just slightly off...
- Tsiklon 4y ago
  16:10 has been around and relatively popular for at least 17 years. The original 2006 MacBook Pro had a 16:10 1440x900 panel
  - epmaybe 4y ago
    Most if not all MacBooks today are still 16:10 ratio..
    - rsynnott 4y ago
      Strictly speaking they're not; the bit below the notch is, but you get a bit of extra space around the notch to accommodate a menu bar.
  - goosedragons 4y ago
    16:10 goes ALL the way back to some of the earliest widescreen LCDs. The original Apple Cinema Display was 1600x1024 in 1999. This was predated by the SGI 1600SW with the same resolution in 1998.
    - justin66 4y ago
      The Matrox Millenium II supported 1920x1200 in 1997. Manual for the Mac version, but the PC version has this resolution as well: https://www.matrox.com/sites/default/files/en_millennium_ii_mac2_installation_guide.pdf https://www.matrox.com/sites/default/files/en_millennium_ii_...
  - WesolyKubeczek 4y ago
    IIRC it's so since Titanium PowerBooks which were the first to go widescreen at Apple, so it's 2001. Then aluminum PowerBooks with 16:10 screens, too. Intel MacBook Pros continued the trend.
    - rsynnott 4y ago
      ... Wait, really? Huh. I thought the Powerbooks were 4:3 til the end, but yeah, just looked and you're right. (I had a G4 iBook at the time, which was 4:3).

detrites 4y ago

Isn't the point of these that you can modularly customise everything? Or does that not include the screen?

WesolyKubeczek 4y ago
You cannot just pop in any panel that you like. The whole assembly needs to accommodate for it. I think your company would have to be obscenely rich to afford such a supply chain so it could offer different display assemblies for the same laptop.
- detrites 4y ago
  I'd have thought there would be some kind of loose standards that come with the combination of economies of scale and provisions for options for consumers when it comes to existing larger players in the space. Eg, I know some laptop manufacturers offer a choice of a few different display options when configuring builds - so framework choosing the display form-factor of a popular one could be an instant win for modularity.