> The strong protections that police have should be the norm. I agree the US generally doesn't have great worker protections and the situation should probably

> The strong protections that police have should be the norm. I agree the US generally doesn't have great worker protections and the situation should probably be improved. On the other hand, when the public seeks redress against police misconduct, they have the unions to thank for serious obstacles they must face. Unions historically have succeeded in hiding disciplinary records from the public, apparently help "bad apples" quickly get re-hired the next town over, inflate salaries and are behind very expensive defined benefit pensions. It seems hard to argue that police unions are furthering the public interest. Combined with qualified immunity, which is nonsensical overreaching judicial activism, and the Supreme Court ruling officers have no duty to protect [0], American policing seems to fail its public terribly. I've noticed certain YouTube channels seem to easily and consistently get endless examples of obvious police misconduct [1][2][3]. Meanwhile I've previously seen people argue that improving the pay [4] may help, but at least in some states when factoring in overtime and weird contractual rules+bonuses, total pay seems to be already very high. The problems seem to run very deep. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeShaney_v._Winnebago_County https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeShaney_v._Winnebago_County [1] https://www.youtube.com/@AuditTheAudit https://www.youtube.com/@AuditTheAudit [2] https://www.youtube.com/@LongIslandAudit https://www.youtube.com/@LongIslandAudit [3] https://www.youtube.com/@LackLusterMedia https://www.youtube.com/@LackLusterMedia [4]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35235677 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35235677