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Couldn't it be a consequence of similar architecture? When a battery overheats to an extreme, failure modes look very similar despite being no coordination betw

Couldn't it be a consequence of similar architecture? When a battery overheats to an extreme, failure modes look very similar despite being no coordination between different batteries.

swader999 4y ago
How do you explain them wandering around the hospital out of their bodies and reporting on specific corroborated details after they are revived? Here's a better summary of the evidence: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6172100/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6172100/
- edmundsauto 4y ago
  > In this group of 287 NDErs with OBEs, there were 65 (23%) who personally investigated the accuracy of their own OBE observations after recovering from their life-threatening event. Based on these later investigations, none of these 65 OBErs found any inaccuracy in their own OBE observations. Retrospective self-reported investigations multiplied by motivated reasoning feels pretty reasonable to me.
  - swader999 4y ago
    The aware study is another one with a better design but it doesn't have enough data back yet. Here's a link to the study that investigated NDE experiences in the blind that found some had reportedly seen things after near death: https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc799333/m2/1/high_res_d/vol16-no2-101.pdf https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc799333/m2/1...
    - theonething 4y ago
      > To examine this point from a statistical perspective and help to provide something of an overview of our findings here, we can list a number of the common features of NDEs and state how often they are mentioned in the interviews of our 21 respondents in the NDEr category. Feelings of peace, well-being, or being loved were reported in 20 interviews; a sense of separation from the physical body, or an actual out-of-body experience (OBE), in 14; seeing one's own physical body, in 10; going through a tunnel or dark space, in eight; meeting others, such as spirits, angels, or religious personages, in 12; seeing a radiant light, in eight; hearing noise or music, in seven; a life re view, in four; encountering a border. Vicki's account of her NDE starting on page 9 of the pdf is riveting. And it's very interesting how similar NDE accounts are across people. > inspection reveals no obvious differences among sight subgroups with respect to the frequency of NDE elements. Thus, whether one is blind from birth, loses one's sight in later life, or suffers from severe visual impair ment, the type of NDE reported appears to be much the same and is not structurally different from those described by sighted persons.

Couldn't it be a consequence of similar architecture? When a battery overheats to an extreme, failure modes look very similar despite being no coordination between different batteries.

swader999 4y ago

How do you explain them wandering around the hospital out of their bodies and reporting on specific corroborated details after they are revived? Here's a better summary of the evidence: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6172100/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6172100/

edmundsauto 4y ago
> In this group of 287 NDErs with OBEs, there were 65 (23%) who personally investigated the accuracy of their own OBE observations after recovering from their life-threatening event. Based on these later investigations, none of these 65 OBErs found any inaccuracy in their own OBE observations. Retrospective self-reported investigations multiplied by motivated reasoning feels pretty reasonable to me.
- swader999 4y ago
  The aware study is another one with a better design but it doesn't have enough data back yet. Here's a link to the study that investigated NDE experiences in the blind that found some had reportedly seen things after near death: https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc799333/m2/1/high_res_d/vol16-no2-101.pdf https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc799333/m2/1...
  - theonething 4y ago
    > To examine this point from a statistical perspective and help to provide something of an overview of our findings here, we can list a number of the common features of NDEs and state how often they are mentioned in the interviews of our 21 respondents in the NDEr category. Feelings of peace, well-being, or being loved were reported in 20 interviews; a sense of separation from the physical body, or an actual out-of-body experience (OBE), in 14; seeing one's own physical body, in 10; going through a tunnel or dark space, in eight; meeting others, such as spirits, angels, or religious personages, in 12; seeing a radiant light, in eight; hearing noise or music, in seven; a life re view, in four; encountering a border. Vicki's account of her NDE starting on page 9 of the pdf is riveting. And it's very interesting how similar NDE accounts are across people. > inspection reveals no obvious differences among sight subgroups with respect to the frequency of NDE elements. Thus, whether one is blind from birth, loses one's sight in later life, or suffers from severe visual impair ment, the type of NDE reported appears to be much the same and is not structurally different from those described by sighted persons.