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I've never had a mac last less than 4 years, and the ones > 4 years old just become my backups. I doubt Framework laptops will find themselves with similar life

• smoldesu 4y ago
  > I doubt Framework laptops will find themselves with similar lifespans. I wouldn't be so sure. If there are viable ways to recycle both the chassis and internals, the average Framework will probably outlast the revered old-school unibody design. It will certainly outlast anything with it's storage soldered-on.
• Kostic 4y ago
  Honest question, why do you think that Framework will have smaller lifespan? I have a bunch of working Thinkpads that are approaching the 10-year mark and I imagine that Framework should be even more durable as it's easier to repair and modify.
  • tinco 4y ago
    That you have more than one means they're not your daily drivers. The parent means that Apple laptops are often used by the same person as a daily driver for long times sometimes even 10 years. My previous MBP I used as a daily driver for over 8 years, and my current one is at 6 years still going strong but the new ones are so attractive I'm probably going to cave in and switch sometime soon.
• starkparker 4y ago
  When I say my Mac will more likely be in a landfill, I mean it's a managed machine that my employer will write off and send away for "recycling", and it's an M1 that's already queued for replacement with an M2. If Framework keeps going, it might be a Theseus situation, but it'll probably be on its fourth or fifth mainboard and second battery in 6 years. TCO to me on the Framework and my employer for the Mac will be about the same. The Macs will be nicer all around. They'll also more likely be literal garbage because of management policies.