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I have three weeks until I plan to give notice, so I'll take your perspective to heart and give it time to reconsider, of course. I appreciate the feedback. Fr

by 93po 4y ago

I have three weeks until I plan to give notice, so I'll take your perspective to heart and give it time to reconsider, of course. I appreciate the feedback. From my perspective this isn't about anyone trying to convince me of anything and I'm falling for it. My beliefs on the future of software are based on a series of logical steps that lead me to believe most software development, and frankly any software with user interfaces, will mostly cease to exist in my lifetime.

pms 4y ago
You definitely sound all emotional. Take it easy.
- 93po 4y ago
  Hard for me to be objective about this so I believe you. I'm sure there's emotions there.
  - mrcartmeneses 4y ago
    Just wanted to say I am personally feeling super emotional about this. The scary things for me are: A, this happened once before with my career path, I started my working life in journalism and the bottom fell out of the market in 2008 and never recovered. Newspapers went from paying £300 per 1000 words to paying nothing at all (but you get the kudos of being published for your copywriting career). I had a friend still hanging on in the industry around 2010. She was earning £16k per year for a job as the news-editor for two local newspapers in London. None of my friends still work on the industry. Even the BBC people I knew quit. B, a lot of software is to do with automating the work of other people. If that work is itself so easy to do that even software developers aren’t needed, then what does that mean for all of the rest of society who get their jobs automated? Does the economy just crash and burn?
    - malborodog 4y ago
      Someone still has to talk to the computer and make it do stuff. That’s us. That won’t change even if how we do it changes.
jwithington 4y ago
Are you quitting your job because you think you’re being made obsolete and are getting ahead of layoffs? What are you thinking of pivoting to? Or are you quitting to start something?
- 93po 4y ago
  It's not that I fear being obsolete within the period of time I'd stay at this job naturally. And definitely don't fear being laid off, though my employer is doing some layoffs right now and hasn't announced it. It's that I don't want to be working towards advancing my career in a direction that I don't see being very relevant in the long term. Relevancy and meaning in my work is important to me. And to clarify, I think product management will stay relevant for a long time, just not the software I'm building or how it's being built where I work. I will likely pivot to something close to product management, maybe closer to solutions engineering (which I've done before). Something slightly more hands-on in terms of using the tooling we're seeing today, but not so hands-on that I'm programming all day.

by 93po 4y ago

pms 4y ago

You definitely sound all emotional. Take it easy.

93po 4y ago
Hard for me to be objective about this so I believe you. I'm sure there's emotions there.
- mrcartmeneses 4y ago
  Just wanted to say I am personally feeling super emotional about this. The scary things for me are: A, this happened once before with my career path, I started my working life in journalism and the bottom fell out of the market in 2008 and never recovered. Newspapers went from paying £300 per 1000 words to paying nothing at all (but you get the kudos of being published for your copywriting career). I had a friend still hanging on in the industry around 2010. She was earning £16k per year for a job as the news-editor for two local newspapers in London. None of my friends still work on the industry. Even the BBC people I knew quit. B, a lot of software is to do with automating the work of other people. If that work is itself so easy to do that even software developers aren’t needed, then what does that mean for all of the rest of society who get their jobs automated? Does the economy just crash and burn?
  - malborodog 4y ago
    Someone still has to talk to the computer and make it do stuff. That’s us. That won’t change even if how we do it changes.

jwithington 4y ago

Are you quitting your job because you think you’re being made obsolete and are getting ahead of layoffs? What are you thinking of pivoting to? Or are you quitting to start something?

93po 4y ago
It's not that I fear being obsolete within the period of time I'd stay at this job naturally. And definitely don't fear being laid off, though my employer is doing some layoffs right now and hasn't announced it. It's that I don't want to be working towards advancing my career in a direction that I don't see being very relevant in the long term. Relevancy and meaning in my work is important to me. And to clarify, I think product management will stay relevant for a long time, just not the software I'm building or how it's being built where I work. I will likely pivot to something close to product management, maybe closer to solutions engineering (which I've done before). Something slightly more hands-on in terms of using the tooling we're seeing today, but not so hands-on that I'm programming all day.