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The DoD really needs to step in and mark this tech as non-exportable due to the advantage (or potential advantage) it provides in many different fields.

int_19h 4y ago
Russia is already blocked from ChatGPT and Bing; I don't know about China. But it's all security theater. Plenty of people use it with VPNs, and I know several who found it useful / interesting enough to bother paying for it (which involves foreign credit cards etc so it's kind of a hassle). I'm sure so does the Russian govt. In any case, I don't see how you could realistically block any of that without effectively walling off the rest of the Internet.
- Thorentis 4y ago
  Not exportable often means just not available on the Internet at all. Due to a range of factors, such as the dilution of human content online, the inability to prevent bad actors from using it etc I would rather this tech never saw the light of day and was limited to government and research institutions.
  - int_19h 4y ago
    It never works like that with tech. Especially not this kind of tech, where all the building blocks have been around for some time and are well-understood - just not the result of combining them at this scale. In any case, if it's really that powerful, limiting it to one government sounds like a recipe for the worst kind of a one world state to me.
- butterfly771 4y ago
  I am from China, the Chinese government has banned access to chatgpt related products and Baidu has launched the 文心一言 which is basically gpt-3.
  - int_19h 4y ago
    Wait, do you mean it's on par with GPT-3, or it's literally GPT-3? If the latter, how did they get the model?
- ricochet11 4y ago
  Working at a chinese university. Everyone (students and teachers) using chatgpt, officially openai don't let you access from china. but everyone has vpns, even the university internet is all behind a hong kong vpn (as google etc is useful). It does all feel like weird theatre that just makes anything american slightly annoying to use. So theres local startups and researchers working on replicating these things and making them easier to access. If the usa dont want to make products available to the whole world out some combination of fear and patriotism, then china will instead.
  - imp0cat 4y ago
    If China does not have Google equivalent and chinese people are instead forced to use Google via vpn, what makes you think China will make some AI-related product available to the whole world? It will most likely be a closely-guarded secret one, no?
  - s3p 4y ago
    Google can't even keep up with OpenAI. I wouldn't expect much out of China in this space.

int_19h 4y ago

Russia is already blocked from ChatGPT and Bing; I don't know about China. But it's all security theater. Plenty of people use it with VPNs, and I know several who found it useful / interesting enough to bother paying for it (which involves foreign credit cards etc so it's kind of a hassle). I'm sure so does the Russian govt. In any case, I don't see how you could realistically block any of that without effectively walling off the rest of the Internet.

Thorentis 4y ago
Not exportable often means just not available on the Internet at all. Due to a range of factors, such as the dilution of human content online, the inability to prevent bad actors from using it etc I would rather this tech never saw the light of day and was limited to government and research institutions.
- int_19h 4y ago
  It never works like that with tech. Especially not this kind of tech, where all the building blocks have been around for some time and are well-understood - just not the result of combining them at this scale. In any case, if it's really that powerful, limiting it to one government sounds like a recipe for the worst kind of a one world state to me.
butterfly771 4y ago
I am from China, the Chinese government has banned access to chatgpt related products and Baidu has launched the 文心一言 which is basically gpt-3.
- int_19h 4y ago
  Wait, do you mean it's on par with GPT-3, or it's literally GPT-3? If the latter, how did they get the model?
ricochet11 4y ago
Working at a chinese university. Everyone (students and teachers) using chatgpt, officially openai don't let you access from china. but everyone has vpns, even the university internet is all behind a hong kong vpn (as google etc is useful). It does all feel like weird theatre that just makes anything american slightly annoying to use. So theres local startups and researchers working on replicating these things and making them easier to access. If the usa dont want to make products available to the whole world out some combination of fear and patriotism, then china will instead.
- imp0cat 4y ago
  If China does not have Google equivalent and chinese people are instead forced to use Google via vpn, what makes you think China will make some AI-related product available to the whole world? It will most likely be a closely-guarded secret one, no?
- s3p 4y ago
  Google can't even keep up with OpenAI. I wouldn't expect much out of China in this space.