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> The faster we build the future, the better. Famous last words. It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the end. Change, even massive chang

by kibwen 4y ago

> The faster we build the future, the better. Famous last words. It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the end. Change, even massive change, is perfectly survivable when it's spread over a long enough period of time. 100m of sea level rise would be survivable over the course of ten millennia. It would end human civilization if it happened tomorrow morning. Society is already struggling to adapt to the rate of technological change. This could easily be the tipping point into collapse and regression.

Dma54rhs 4y ago
The only people complaining are a section of comfortable office workers can probably see their places being possibly made irrelevant. The vast majority don't care and that loud crowd needs to swallow their pride and adapt like any other sector has done in the history instead of inventing these insane boogeyman predictions.
- Riverheart 4y ago
  We’re all going to be made irrelevant and it will be harder to adapt if the things change too quickly. It may not even be us that needs to adapt but society itself. Really curious where you get the idea this is just a vocal minority of office workers concerned about the future. Seems like a lot of the ones not concerned about this are a bunch of super confident software engineer types which isn’t a large sample of the population.
- zo1 4y ago
  We don't even know what kind of society we could have if the value of 99.9% of peoples labor (mental or physical) dropped to basically zero. Our human existence has so far been predicated and built on this core concept. This is the ultimate goal of AI, and yeah as a stepping stone it acts to augment our value, but the end goal does not look so pretty. Reminds me of a quote from Alpha Centauri (minus the religious connotation): "Beware, you who seek first and final principles, for you are trampling the garden of an angry God and he awaits you just beyond the last theorem."
bulbosaur123 4y ago
False equivalence. Sea level raise is unequivocally harmful. While everyone getting Einstein in a pocket is damn awesome and incredibly useful. How can this be bad?
- Riverheart 4y ago
  Because there’s a high likelihood that that’s not at all how this technology is going to be spread amongst the population, or all countries and this technology is going to be way more than Einstein in a pocket. How do you even structure society around that? What about all the malicious people in the world. Now they have Einsteins. Great, nothing can go wrong there.
  - bulbosaur123 4y ago
    The risk is there. But it's worth the risk. Humans are curious creatures, you can't just shut something like this in a box. Even if it is dangerous, even if it has potential to destroy humanity. It's our nature to explore, it's our nature to advance at all costs. Bring it on!
  - birracerveza 4y ago
    >What about all the malicious people in the world. Now they have Einsteins. Luckily, so do you.
    - egoisticalgoat 4y ago
      This is where it all comes back to the old "good guy with a gun" argument.
      - birracerveza 4y ago
        There is a very, very big difference between "tool with all of human knowledge that you can ask anything to" and "tool you can kill people with".
      - Riverheart 4y ago

by kibwen 4y ago

Dma54rhs 4y ago

The only people complaining are a section of comfortable office workers can probably see their places being possibly made irrelevant. The vast majority don't care and that loud crowd needs to swallow their pride and adapt like any other sector has done in the history instead of inventing these insane boogeyman predictions.

Riverheart 4y ago
We’re all going to be made irrelevant and it will be harder to adapt if the things change too quickly. It may not even be us that needs to adapt but society itself. Really curious where you get the idea this is just a vocal minority of office workers concerned about the future. Seems like a lot of the ones not concerned about this are a bunch of super confident software engineer types which isn’t a large sample of the population.
zo1 4y ago
We don't even know what kind of society we could have if the value of 99.9% of peoples labor (mental or physical) dropped to basically zero. Our human existence has so far been predicated and built on this core concept. This is the ultimate goal of AI, and yeah as a stepping stone it acts to augment our value, but the end goal does not look so pretty. Reminds me of a quote from Alpha Centauri (minus the religious connotation): "Beware, you who seek first and final principles, for you are trampling the garden of an angry God and he awaits you just beyond the last theorem."

bulbosaur123 4y ago

False equivalence. Sea level raise is unequivocally harmful. While everyone getting Einstein in a pocket is damn awesome and incredibly useful. How can this be bad?

Riverheart 4y ago
Because there’s a high likelihood that that’s not at all how this technology is going to be spread amongst the population, or all countries and this technology is going to be way more than Einstein in a pocket. How do you even structure society around that? What about all the malicious people in the world. Now they have Einsteins. Great, nothing can go wrong there.
- bulbosaur123 4y ago
  The risk is there. But it's worth the risk. Humans are curious creatures, you can't just shut something like this in a box. Even if it is dangerous, even if it has potential to destroy humanity. It's our nature to explore, it's our nature to advance at all costs. Bring it on!
- birracerveza 4y ago
  >What about all the malicious people in the world. Now they have Einsteins. Luckily, so do you.
  - egoisticalgoat 4y ago
    This is where it all comes back to the old "good guy with a gun" argument.
    - birracerveza 4y ago
      There is a very, very big difference between "tool with all of human knowledge that you can ask anything to" and "tool you can kill people with".
    - Riverheart 4y ago