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Is this the hill you really want to fight for in life? If a gym offers an email address, real life support, and/or a phone number to cancel, are you going to be

Is this the hill you really want to fight for in life? If a gym offers an email address, real life support, and/or a phone number to cancel, are you going to be intensely morally outraged that you can't send a physical letter to cancel as well? Doesn't it seem reasonable for businesses to (for the most part) pick and choose how they conduct business and deal with their customers, so long as they're not committing fraud or other crimes? Isn't the point of the law to protect people from crimes? Is the point of the law to dictate the tiny minute details of everyday life?

Sohcahtoa82 4y ago
> If a gym offers an email address, real life support, and/or a phone number to cancel, are you going to be intensely morally outraged that you can't send a physical letter to cancel as well? I think you misunderstood the parent comment: > You should just be able to send them a letter, an email, go in and inform them That's a "you should" statement. The simple fact is, you can't cancel by just sending a letter, e-mail, or just going into the gym. Usually, you have to fill out their form and send it as a registered mail to some corporate office that will likely completely ignore it for another month or two and keep charging you. If you can join a gym by just showing up or creating an account online, then you should be able to cancel online or by just showing up and telling them to cancel. > Doesn't it seem reasonable for businesses to [...] Yes, but doesn't it seem shitty the way gyms operate? Fuck off with your "BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU SIGNED UP FOR" and just answer THAT question. The problem is that every gym operates this way. Going to a competitor isn't an option.
- CogitoCogito 4y ago
  Actually I think /u/logicalmonster really did basically understand me correctly. I just kind of ignored the post because it was weirdly hysteric while acting like I was the hysteric one (e.g. "Is this the hill you really want to fight for in life?"). My point was really just that there should be a few standard simple ways that all businesses _must_ accept for the ending of contracts. /u/logicalmonster seems to think there is value in allowing businesses to not honor such requests because it is "reasonable for businesses to (for the most part) pick and choose how they conduct business". I disagree. I see no value in such a policy and think that my recommendations would make for better economic value.
  - logicalmonster 4y ago
    If your gym won't accept cancellation via every conceivable communication method on Earth: carrier homing pigeons, telegrams, smoke signals, braille, singing telegrams and morse code, sign language, or interpretive dance routines, then they should be thrown in prison. How dare they pick and choose that some methods of communication are more valid than others.
    - CogitoCogito 4y ago
      > If your gym won't accept cancellation via every conceivable communication method on Earth: carrier homing pigeons, telegrams, smoke signals, braille, singing telegrams and morse code, sign language, or interpretive dance routines, then they should be thrown in prison. Why are you pretending that I'm arguing something I am not?

Sohcahtoa82 4y ago

> If a gym offers an email address, real life support, and/or a phone number to cancel, are you going to be intensely morally outraged that you can't send a physical letter to cancel as well? I think you misunderstood the parent comment: > You should just be able to send them a letter, an email, go in and inform them That's a "you should" statement. The simple fact is, you can't cancel by just sending a letter, e-mail, or just going into the gym. Usually, you have to fill out their form and send it as a registered mail to some corporate office that will likely completely ignore it for another month or two and keep charging you. If you can join a gym by just showing up or creating an account online, then you should be able to cancel online or by just showing up and telling them to cancel. > Doesn't it seem reasonable for businesses to [...] Yes, but doesn't it seem shitty the way gyms operate? Fuck off with your "BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU SIGNED UP FOR" and just answer THAT question. The problem is that every gym operates this way. Going to a competitor isn't an option.

CogitoCogito 4y ago
Actually I think /u/logicalmonster really did basically understand me correctly. I just kind of ignored the post because it was weirdly hysteric while acting like I was the hysteric one (e.g. "Is this the hill you really want to fight for in life?"). My point was really just that there should be a few standard simple ways that all businesses _must_ accept for the ending of contracts. /u/logicalmonster seems to think there is value in allowing businesses to not honor such requests because it is "reasonable for businesses to (for the most part) pick and choose how they conduct business". I disagree. I see no value in such a policy and think that my recommendations would make for better economic value.
- logicalmonster 4y ago
  If your gym won't accept cancellation via every conceivable communication method on Earth: carrier homing pigeons, telegrams, smoke signals, braille, singing telegrams and morse code, sign language, or interpretive dance routines, then they should be thrown in prison. How dare they pick and choose that some methods of communication are more valid than others.
  - CogitoCogito 4y ago
    > If your gym won't accept cancellation via every conceivable communication method on Earth: carrier homing pigeons, telegrams, smoke signals, braille, singing telegrams and morse code, sign language, or interpretive dance routines, then they should be thrown in prison. Why are you pretending that I'm arguing something I am not?