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How many things have they created standards for that already have open standards in common use in the laptop space? If we’re going from 2 open standards to 3 t

How many things have they created standards for that already have open standards in common use in the laptop space? If we’re going from 2 open standards to 3 that seems unnecessary. If we’re going from 0 open standards to 1 that seems like a huge step forward.

agloe_dreams 4y ago
MXM is an 'open-ish' standard that others build for. My real weird view is that they have really went a different direction and their GPU upgrade has a whole rear deck you install and all that rather than building it into the product. That deck will only ever work with the Framework 16. Like, this isn't a standard at all, it's just open for Framework to gain from. It reminds me of Google's Project Ara but for the wrong reasons. https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/23/23652967/framework-laptop-16-modular-upgradable-graphics https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/23/23652967/framework-laptop...
- adgjlsfhk1 4y ago
  > MXM is an 'open-ish' standard that others build for NVidia hasn't made MXM compatible GPUs for at least 5 years.
  - agloe_dreams 4y ago
    Yes but the standard still exists. There are PCIe 4.0 GPUs out there in MXM format. It is just PCIe.
    - CarVac 4y ago
      MXM is alright for upgrading, but it's not modular the way this aims to be. This includes cooling, so a small GPU could have smaller heatsinks and a beefy GPU could have huge heatsinks. And if you don't want the GPU and the associated power draw plus the size and weight of the heatsinks, you can swap it for another module if you don't want to game on the go. As they said in their presentation, it's not just for GPUs. You could have a supplemental battery. They will offer a storage expansion that gives you more M.2 slots. Hypothetically you could even just make a module that lets you fit a desktop GPU on the back, if you provided external power.

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How many things have they created standards for that already have open standards in common use in the laptop space? If we’re going from 2 open standards to 3 t

by ncallaway 4y ago

agloe_dreams 4y ago
MXM is an 'open-ish' standard that others build for. My real weird view is that they have really went a different direction and their GPU upgrade has a whole rear deck you install and all that rather than building it into the product. That deck will only ever work with the Framework 16. Like, this isn't a standard at all, it's just open for Framework to gain from. It reminds me of Google's Project Ara but for the wrong reasons. https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/23/23652967/framework-laptop-16-modular-upgradable-graphics https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/23/23652967/framework-laptop...
- adgjlsfhk1 4y ago
  > MXM is an 'open-ish' standard that others build for NVidia hasn't made MXM compatible GPUs for at least 5 years.
  - agloe_dreams 4y ago
    Yes but the standard still exists. There are PCIe 4.0 GPUs out there in MXM format. It is just PCIe.
    - CarVac 4y ago
      MXM is alright for upgrading, but it's not modular the way this aims to be. This includes cooling, so a small GPU could have smaller heatsinks and a beefy GPU could have huge heatsinks. And if you don't want the GPU and the associated power draw plus the size and weight of the heatsinks, you can swap it for another module if you don't want to game on the go. As they said in their presentation, it's not just for GPUs. You could have a supplemental battery. They will offer a storage expansion that gives you more M.2 slots. Hypothetically you could even just make a module that lets you fit a desktop GPU on the back, if you provided external power.