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And if you scroll down you can see the glowing review that they got from Linus Tech Tips.... Who owns a stake in their company...Yiiiikes.

Hamuko 4y ago
I think that review might be from before Linus invested in Framework. Not that I can verify it because the Linus Tech Tips channel is still banned.
- zmk5 4y ago
  That and the Dave2D endorsements have been there since the first laptop.
- agloe_dreams 4y ago
  I think you are right but it still implies that LTT has a valid unbiased opinion on the product now.
  - Macha 4y ago
    If the opinion presented in that video was shared before any business relationship was concieved, I'd hardly consider the opinion invalid.
- laweijfmvo 4y ago
  It might be before we knew about the investment...
  - nrp 4y ago
    There are detailed videos from Linus on this topic. No conversation took place about investment until after he did his review video. When we first saw the video (at the same time as everyone else did), we assumed he was joking about wanting to invest.
Drybones 4y ago
LTT reviewed the Framework laptop before Linus decided to invest into the company.
dzikimarian 4y ago
And Linus is completely transparent about it in this and following materials. What's the issue?
OJFord 4y ago
A tiny one though right? Objecting much to that would be like insisting on a disclosure that nrp is the long-term owner of $1k AMD shares in a pension account or something.
kup0 4y ago
Linus has always been upfront about this investment and I believe some of his content was from before the investment took place. He's explained his reasoning for investing at length and has included a disclaimer in places where necessary. So this is a very uncharitable take. There's plenty of things to cringe or criticize LTT for- but this just isn't it
- agloe_dreams 4y ago
  …I’m not criticizing LTT but hey still got the typical “Linus does no wrong” take. My critique was on Framework not disclosing themselves that their quote is from someone with a stake in their product now.
  - iLoveOncall 4y ago
    Framework received this review from LTT before they were ever affiliated, so what's the issue? If you buy a McDonald's share you need to update your Google Maps review of the one in your old neighborhood from 10 years ago to disclose that you are part owner?
  - kup0 4y ago
    I hesitate to legitimize your reply with my own, but my take was anything but saying Linus does no wrong and in fact I explicitly stated there are things for which LTT/Linus can be legitimately criticized Your initial post was a vague enough comment that it could easily be taken to be criticizing LTT for giving a "glowing review" as "someone who invested in the product... yikes" etc etc, not just Framework not putting a disclosure. The latter is something I don't actually disagree with. Had your post had that clarity then I doubt we'd have had a disagreement at all That said, I think the fact that the review occurred prior to the investment make even that disclosure unnecessary.
numberwan9 4y ago
And LTT is now hacked. Fun times.
Aissen 4y ago
We could see it if the LTT account hadn't been taken over today, pushed crypto scams, and wasn't currently suspended ("the youtube account associated with this video has been terminated").

Hamuko 4y ago

I think that review might be from before Linus invested in Framework. Not that I can verify it because the Linus Tech Tips channel is still banned.

zmk5 4y ago
That and the Dave2D endorsements have been there since the first laptop.
agloe_dreams 4y ago
I think you are right but it still implies that LTT has a valid unbiased opinion on the product now.
- Macha 4y ago
  If the opinion presented in that video was shared before any business relationship was concieved, I'd hardly consider the opinion invalid.
laweijfmvo 4y ago
It might be before we knew about the investment...
- nrp 4y ago
  There are detailed videos from Linus on this topic. No conversation took place about investment until after he did his review video. When we first saw the video (at the same time as everyone else did), we assumed he was joking about wanting to invest.

Drybones 4y ago

LTT reviewed the Framework laptop before Linus decided to invest into the company.

dzikimarian 4y ago

And Linus is completely transparent about it in this and following materials. What's the issue?

OJFord 4y ago

A tiny one though right? Objecting much to that would be like insisting on a disclosure that nrp is the long-term owner of $1k AMD shares in a pension account or something.

kup0 4y ago

Linus has always been upfront about this investment and I believe some of his content was from before the investment took place. He's explained his reasoning for investing at length and has included a disclaimer in places where necessary. So this is a very uncharitable take. There's plenty of things to cringe or criticize LTT for- but this just isn't it

agloe_dreams 4y ago
…I’m not criticizing LTT but hey still got the typical “Linus does no wrong” take. My critique was on Framework not disclosing themselves that their quote is from someone with a stake in their product now.
- iLoveOncall 4y ago
  Framework received this review from LTT before they were ever affiliated, so what's the issue? If you buy a McDonald's share you need to update your Google Maps review of the one in your old neighborhood from 10 years ago to disclose that you are part owner?
- kup0 4y ago
  I hesitate to legitimize your reply with my own, but my take was anything but saying Linus does no wrong and in fact I explicitly stated there are things for which LTT/Linus can be legitimately criticized Your initial post was a vague enough comment that it could easily be taken to be criticizing LTT for giving a "glowing review" as "someone who invested in the product... yikes" etc etc, not just Framework not putting a disclosure. The latter is something I don't actually disagree with. Had your post had that clarity then I doubt we'd have had a disagreement at all That said, I think the fact that the review occurred prior to the investment make even that disclosure unnecessary.

numberwan9 4y ago

And LTT is now hacked. Fun times.

Aissen 4y ago

We could see it if the LTT account hadn't been taken over today, pushed crypto scams, and wasn't currently suspended ("the youtube account associated with this video has been terminated").