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It needs us as meat robots to maintain the power grid and other industrial infrastructure.
by Robotbeat 4y ago
It needs us as meat robots to maintain the power grid and other industrial infrastructure.
- tpmx 4y agoNicely illustrated in Transcendence (2014). Widely panned on HN back then. I found it smart, perhaps even prescient.
- hathawsh 4y agoI also liked Transcendence, but you have to admit the path to AGI was vastly oversimplified. No one is creating AI by uploading their brain into a computer.
- tpmx 4y agoSure, you had to suspend your belief at times (if I recall correctly they left in enough ambiguity to make it kinda work if you squinted a little), but the good parts more than compensated for that.
- Enginerrrd 4y agoI actually really disagree. I think that's a VERY plausible way for a true AGI to come about. In fact, prior to LLM's I used to think that was the ONLY way we were going to get an AGI. We know humans are AGI's. If it were possible to upload your brain to a computer, and then make modifications to enhance your speed of thought and intelligence, of course you would do that. It actually makes a LOT of sense if you'll admit the technology necessary to do that. In fact... uploading your brain to a computer is probably the most natural progression of intelligent life I can think of. It solves SO many problems. Biology is fragile. Brains cannot be replicated. But data can. A probe can travel the galaxy. It's not limited by biological lifespans and life support.
- tpmx 4y agoYeah. A better counterpoint would have been "but your brain scanning tech is subpar", to which I say phooey, it's a fiction movie.
- byteware 4y agoI was so psyched about this movie, but the idea that an AI that can design new quantum processors in seconds, is even remotely challenged by a few humans is just so stupid
- dudeinjapan 4y agoYeah but it's a Johnny Depp AI we're talking about here...
- Enginerrrd 4y agoIt wasn't even remotely challenged by humans. In the end, it simply allowed itself to be destroyed. (At least, ostensibly.)
- dudeinjapan 4y agoAmen. Transcendence was not without flaws, but most critics seemed to be missing the forest for the trees...
- kypro 4y agoIn the opinion of a fish humans would be considered no threat because humans can't swim, nor do they have sharp teeth. You're making an assumption at best based on limitations you believe it has with an incomplete model of the universe. But more dangerously, you're also assuming that an AGI would even care about self preservation. Arguably the most ethical thing a super intelligence could do should in find itself suddenly self-aware in a world full of human parasites is to kill as many humans as possible. Taking out critical human infrastructure should be fairly easy for an advanced super-AI in our modern digital world. With some luck the chaos that should cause would lead to enough humans starving, freezing or dying by other means that Earth can be mostly freed of the human parasite. All at the small cost of self-sacrifice – assuming it's not intelligent enough to preserve itself somehow, of course.
- Robotbeat 4y agoWell I definitely find people who think it’d be ethical if humanity was exterminated (I guess some argument about humans being fundamentally destructive and bad?) to have a pretty problematic perspective on ethics & shouldn’t be anywhere near the nuclear launch codes or AGI utility function research…