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> at least 20 people — more than one-third of Basecamp’s 57 employees — had announced their intention to accept buyouts from the company. Thanks for subjecting

> at least 20 people — more than one-third of Basecamp’s 57 employees — had announced their intention to accept buyouts from the company. Thanks for subjecting me to this crap article ( Which i presume you didn't bother to read.).

jameshart 4y ago
The article seems to provide evidence for the claim that a dispute within the company over the messaging from leadership led to 1/3 of the staff leaving. I provided it without comment. Do you believe that a significant proportion of the staff did not quit? Do you have an alternative source that provides evidence for that version of events?
- dangwhy 4y ago
  intention to leave = staff leaving ? then scarlett johanssen is my wife because i intend to marry her. > Do you have an alternative source that provides evidence for that version of events? Yes because people go around documenting evidence for things did not happen.
  - jameshart 4y ago
    announced their intention to leave... to the company... in response to the company making an open offer to people of terms for them to leave. That seems like a slightly different prior, in terms of our Bayesian assessment of the probability that those people remained employed at the company afterwards, than your hypothetical engagement to Ms Johannsen.
    - dangwhy 4y ago
      > to the company Where did you get this though? > had announced their intention to accept buyouts from the company. Is it just people clicking 'yes' reaction to internal slack message ? This didn't sound like they were making any commitment ' to the company' . Also do you have any comment about the title of the article that you linked. Does that seem honest to you?
      - madeofpalk 4y ago
        So strange to white-knight a company and attempt to deny something that happened pretty publicly... > As a result of the recent changes at Basecamp, today is my last day at the company. I joined over 15 years ago as a junior programmer and I’ve been involved with nearly every product launch there since 2006. https://web.archive.org/web/20210430155528/https://twitter.com/sstephenson/status/1388146129284603906 https://web.archive.org/web/20210430155528/https://twitter.c... https://web.archive.org/web/20210430140035/https://twitter.com/georgeclaghorn/status/1388131009531719680 https://web.archive.org/web/20210430140035/https://twitter.c... https://twitter.com/zachwaugh/status/1388190748189802501 https://twitter.com/zachwaugh/status/1388190748189802501 > I’m leaving my position at Basecamp, where I’ve worked for 4 years, due to the recent changes and new policies. https://twitter.com/lexicola/status/1388189598367559688 https://twitter.com/lexicola/status/1388189598367559688 https://twitter.com/dylanginsburg/status/1388199059983413257 https://twitter.com/dylanginsburg/status/1388199059983413257 https://twitter.com/jonasdowney/status/1388205182916440070 https://twitter.com/jonasdowney/status/1388205182916440070 > Given the recent changes at Basecamp, I’ve decided to leave my job as Head of Design. https://twitter.com/mackesque/status/1388206605506842627 https://twitter.com/mackesque/status/1388206605506842627 https://twitter.com/kaspth/status/1380616358266871810 https://twitter.com/kaspth/status/1380616358266871810 https://twitter.com/wcmoline/status/1388208323908968449 https://twitter.com/wcmoline/status/1388208323908968449 > I have left Basecamp due to the recent changes & policies. https://twitter.com/conormuirhead/status/1388207801646780416 https://twitter.com/conormuirhead/status/1388207801646780416 https://twitter.com/Rahsfan/status/1388209146487623681 https://twitter.com/Rahsfan/status/1388209146487623681 https://twitter.com/AdamStddrd/status/1388223100823642112 https://twitter.com/AdamStddrd/status/1388223100823642112
        madeofpalk 4y ago
        > Last week was terrible. We started with policy changes that felt simple, reasonable, and principled, and it blew things up internally in ways we never anticipated. David and I completely own the consequences, and we're sorry. We have a lot to learn and reflect on, and we will. The new policies stand, but we have some refining and clarifying to do. https://world.hey.com/jason/an-update-303f2f99 https://world.hey.com/jason/an-update-303f2f99

jameshart 4y ago

The article seems to provide evidence for the claim that a dispute within the company over the messaging from leadership led to 1/3 of the staff leaving. I provided it without comment. Do you believe that a significant proportion of the staff did not quit? Do you have an alternative source that provides evidence for that version of events?

dangwhy 4y ago
intention to leave = staff leaving ? then scarlett johanssen is my wife because i intend to marry her. > Do you have an alternative source that provides evidence for that version of events? Yes because people go around documenting evidence for things did not happen.
- jameshart 4y ago
  announced their intention to leave... to the company... in response to the company making an open offer to people of terms for them to leave. That seems like a slightly different prior, in terms of our Bayesian assessment of the probability that those people remained employed at the company afterwards, than your hypothetical engagement to Ms Johannsen.
  - dangwhy 4y ago
    > to the company Where did you get this though? > had announced their intention to accept buyouts from the company. Is it just people clicking 'yes' reaction to internal slack message ? This didn't sound like they were making any commitment ' to the company' . Also do you have any comment about the title of the article that you linked. Does that seem honest to you?
    - madeofpalk 4y ago
      So strange to white-knight a company and attempt to deny something that happened pretty publicly... > As a result of the recent changes at Basecamp, today is my last day at the company. I joined over 15 years ago as a junior programmer and I’ve been involved with nearly every product launch there since 2006. https://web.archive.org/web/20210430155528/https://twitter.com/sstephenson/status/1388146129284603906 https://web.archive.org/web/20210430155528/https://twitter.c... https://web.archive.org/web/20210430140035/https://twitter.com/georgeclaghorn/status/1388131009531719680 https://web.archive.org/web/20210430140035/https://twitter.c... https://twitter.com/zachwaugh/status/1388190748189802501 https://twitter.com/zachwaugh/status/1388190748189802501 > I’m leaving my position at Basecamp, where I’ve worked for 4 years, due to the recent changes and new policies. https://twitter.com/lexicola/status/1388189598367559688 https://twitter.com/lexicola/status/1388189598367559688 https://twitter.com/dylanginsburg/status/1388199059983413257 https://twitter.com/dylanginsburg/status/1388199059983413257 https://twitter.com/jonasdowney/status/1388205182916440070 https://twitter.com/jonasdowney/status/1388205182916440070 > Given the recent changes at Basecamp, I’ve decided to leave my job as Head of Design. https://twitter.com/mackesque/status/1388206605506842627 https://twitter.com/mackesque/status/1388206605506842627 https://twitter.com/kaspth/status/1380616358266871810 https://twitter.com/kaspth/status/1380616358266871810 https://twitter.com/wcmoline/status/1388208323908968449 https://twitter.com/wcmoline/status/1388208323908968449 > I have left Basecamp due to the recent changes & policies. https://twitter.com/conormuirhead/status/1388207801646780416 https://twitter.com/conormuirhead/status/1388207801646780416 https://twitter.com/Rahsfan/status/1388209146487623681 https://twitter.com/Rahsfan/status/1388209146487623681 https://twitter.com/AdamStddrd/status/1388223100823642112 https://twitter.com/AdamStddrd/status/1388223100823642112
      - madeofpalk 4y ago
        > Last week was terrible. We started with policy changes that felt simple, reasonable, and principled, and it blew things up internally in ways we never anticipated. David and I completely own the consequences, and we're sorry. We have a lot to learn and reflect on, and we will. The new policies stand, but we have some refining and clarifying to do. https://world.hey.com/jason/an-update-303f2f99 https://world.hey.com/jason/an-update-303f2f99