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You're missing the point. The benefit is not for you you; the benefit is for your boss. When programmers get better tools and are more productive, your boss nee

You're missing the point. The benefit is not for you you; the benefit is for your boss. When programmers get better tools and are more productive, your boss needs fewer programmers, which saves money. I would expect to see a sharp decline in job opportunities for junior developers, and increased expectations for senior developers.

Spivak 4y ago
Technology can't fix capitalism but when you are actually capturing the value of your own labor that productivity boost goes right into your pocket. It sucks so much to see people have such a negative opinion of a technology that can takes work off human hands when the technology isn't what makes it shitty, it's the raw deal we've been handed where nine tenths of your labor goes to your corporate owner.
- dahwolf 4y ago
  I totally agree. My vision for the future is that we dial back our obsession with stuff a bit, and in return get back more free time. We drastically need a vision for society to believe in, where life gets better, and not endlessly worse. Scenario 1: my economic existence is granted, not under constant threat. I'm now cleared to embrace and welcome any and all technology as an enabler to fulfill my dreams, and hopefully in some way improve the world. Which in turn allows others to improve the world. A fly wheel effect. Scenario 2: I have a family to feed. Fuck this new tool. Another new thing to learn and I already struggle to keep up. No matter how good it is, it will in no way improve my life as it only adds to my load, and will ultimately replace me altogether. Stark difference.
  - hackyhacky 4y ago
    We were promised a 20-hour work week in response to advances in technology during the Industrial Revolution. Didn't happen. There's always someone hungrier, more ambitious who will work more than you.
dahwolf 4y ago
Oh I'm getting the point, that was exactly the (implied) point I was making in response to the OP wondering..."I don't get why people aren't excited".
Panzer04 4y ago
Most of the time these kinds of boosts should lead to more workers being hired, because previously unprofitable applications become profitable. There's not really a bounds on demand for software like there is for, say, food.
underwater 4y ago
If you double productivity then bosses will double the workload. I don't know of any software team that is in danger of completing their backlog.
- moreice 4y ago
  The backlog might shrink quickly when the LLM is testing and debugging the software 24/7 for the cost of a few dollars per hour.

Spivak 4y ago

Technology can't fix capitalism but when you are actually capturing the value of your own labor that productivity boost goes right into your pocket. It sucks so much to see people have such a negative opinion of a technology that can takes work off human hands when the technology isn't what makes it shitty, it's the raw deal we've been handed where nine tenths of your labor goes to your corporate owner.

dahwolf 4y ago
I totally agree. My vision for the future is that we dial back our obsession with stuff a bit, and in return get back more free time. We drastically need a vision for society to believe in, where life gets better, and not endlessly worse. Scenario 1: my economic existence is granted, not under constant threat. I'm now cleared to embrace and welcome any and all technology as an enabler to fulfill my dreams, and hopefully in some way improve the world. Which in turn allows others to improve the world. A fly wheel effect. Scenario 2: I have a family to feed. Fuck this new tool. Another new thing to learn and I already struggle to keep up. No matter how good it is, it will in no way improve my life as it only adds to my load, and will ultimately replace me altogether. Stark difference.
- hackyhacky 4y ago
  We were promised a 20-hour work week in response to advances in technology during the Industrial Revolution. Didn't happen. There's always someone hungrier, more ambitious who will work more than you.

dahwolf 4y ago

Oh I'm getting the point, that was exactly the (implied) point I was making in response to the OP wondering..."I don't get why people aren't excited".

Panzer04 4y ago

Most of the time these kinds of boosts should lead to more workers being hired, because previously unprofitable applications become profitable. There's not really a bounds on demand for software like there is for, say, food.

underwater 4y ago

If you double productivity then bosses will double the workload. I don't know of any software team that is in danger of completing their backlog.

moreice 4y ago
The backlog might shrink quickly when the LLM is testing and debugging the software 24/7 for the cost of a few dollars per hour.