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> There needs to be an unbroken verbal chain between the person who saw an event and the person doing the law enforcement Leaving everything else aside, how wo

> There needs to be an unbroken verbal chain between the person who saw an event and the person doing the law enforcement Leaving everything else aside, how would this look in practice? I think these conversations would need to be in person, since voice can already be faked. Would I need to run to the police station when I need help?

javajosh 4y ago
How would it look? If I am a state security person with a gun, and I'm asked to invade someone's home, I would expect to get a face-to-face meeting with the person who really believes this is necessary, with the evidence laid out. If that is too much trouble to ask, then is justice even possible?
- ajmurmann 4y ago
  Someone is breaking into my house. I'm hiding in my closet from the intruders. How do I get the police to come to my house and help me? Another scenario: I'm a police officer and I'm on patrol. My dispatcher had someone come to the police station to tell them that they think their neighbor is experiencing a home invasion. Does the dispatcher just page me and I now drive back to the police station to verify and then drive back out to the home invasion?
  - javajosh 4y ago
    >Someone is breaking into my house. I'm hiding in my closet from the intruders. How do I get the police to come to my house and help me? Lord, give me patience. Call 911. The dispatcher broadcasts the problem over the radio, and a LEO responds. The dispatcher is a relay that verifies probable cause. The chain of human contact is unbroken between you, the 911 dispatcher, the LEO taking the call. The chain is not broken. Compare this to a machine that spits out warrants, which are distributed to officers, who never even speak to anyone about the case, do not know the subject of the warrant, and simply execute the warrants.
    - splatzone 4y ago
      How do you know it's a person answering the 911 call and not an AI?
    - ajmurmann 4y ago
      From my above comment: > I think these conversations would need to be in person, since voice can already be faked. We are also probably days away from video being trivial to fake.

javajosh 4y ago

How would it look? If I am a state security person with a gun, and I'm asked to invade someone's home, I would expect to get a face-to-face meeting with the person who really believes this is necessary, with the evidence laid out. If that is too much trouble to ask, then is justice even possible?

ajmurmann 4y ago
Someone is breaking into my house. I'm hiding in my closet from the intruders. How do I get the police to come to my house and help me? Another scenario: I'm a police officer and I'm on patrol. My dispatcher had someone come to the police station to tell them that they think their neighbor is experiencing a home invasion. Does the dispatcher just page me and I now drive back to the police station to verify and then drive back out to the home invasion?
- javajosh 4y ago
  >Someone is breaking into my house. I'm hiding in my closet from the intruders. How do I get the police to come to my house and help me? Lord, give me patience. Call 911. The dispatcher broadcasts the problem over the radio, and a LEO responds. The dispatcher is a relay that verifies probable cause. The chain of human contact is unbroken between you, the 911 dispatcher, the LEO taking the call. The chain is not broken. Compare this to a machine that spits out warrants, which are distributed to officers, who never even speak to anyone about the case, do not know the subject of the warrant, and simply execute the warrants.
  - splatzone 4y ago
    How do you know it's a person answering the 911 call and not an AI?
  - ajmurmann 4y ago
    From my above comment: > I think these conversations would need to be in person, since voice can already be faked. We are also probably days away from video being trivial to fake.