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"I think you're enjoying these convolutions" If nothing works, try ad hominem arguments. It is still an argument, but a very weak (the weakest?) one. "You are

"I think you're enjoying these convolutions" If nothing works, try ad hominem arguments. It is still an argument, but a very weak (the weakest?) one. "You are wrong because it's you" has the same problems as "The things I think are ok, are ok, and the things I think are bad, are bad", it doesn't try to be universal and revolves around oneself. Also these kind of arguments have the tendency to lead to an echo chamber with no progress on understanding. PS: You might be right, I've studied Philosophical Computer Science, but it doesn't strengthen your argument. It's like saying "You're wrong because you wear a blue hat, when I wear a blue hat".

giraffe_lady 4y ago
Did I walk into a high school debate club without realizing it? Ad hominem? Let me be completely clear I don't respect you or your position here. I'm not engaging in an abstract philosophical exercise with the goal of furthering humanity's understanding of morality or whatever it is you think we're doing. I'm pointing out that spending time and energy trying to formulate perfectly nuanced universalizable mozaics of morality and slotting your positions into them is foolish. An alternative is just having good judgement, and acting on it. Is that perfect? Can it be generalized to all cases? No! And it doesn't matter because sex workers should be able to get paid without dying and fascism is bad. You don't need that shit today take it to your debate club maybe they'll like it.
KingOfCoders 4y ago
"high school debate club" I'm not from the US, we don't have high schools here and we don't have debate clubs. And I personally don't care the least about US moral judgements. No one outside the US (96% of the world population) cares about US moral judgements. I still have a trauma because as a kid I was forced to watch sitcoms with only black people and sitcoms with only white people, as if there were two planets (Golden Girls was neat though, Cosby didn't age that well - it was ok to rape women but not ok to kiss someone white on TV - how fu is that). But thanks for assuming. The world doesn't revolve around you, the US is not the center of the world. I know, shocking. Get over it. I'm just happy that the days of US culture imperialism and gun-point morale exports ends and no one is forced to care about your views in the future ("But we have atomic bombs!" Yes, heard that before recently). Iraq and Afghanistan showed the emporer wears no clothes. Sad thing is I probably need to learn Chinese, when the other bully enters the stage (there is always a bully) but at least it's a change + "Wandering Earth" wasn't that bad ... Humming 51st state
mrguyorama 4y ago
What the everloving fuck is Philosophical Computer Science

giraffe_lady 4y ago

Did I walk into a high school debate club without realizing it? Ad hominem? Let me be completely clear I don't respect you or your position here. I'm not engaging in an abstract philosophical exercise with the goal of furthering humanity's understanding of morality or whatever it is you think we're doing. I'm pointing out that spending time and energy trying to formulate perfectly nuanced universalizable mozaics of morality and slotting your positions into them is foolish. An alternative is just having good judgement, and acting on it. Is that perfect? Can it be generalized to all cases? No! And it doesn't matter because sex workers should be able to get paid without dying and fascism is bad. You don't need that shit today take it to your debate club maybe they'll like it.

KingOfCoders 4y ago

"high school debate club" I'm not from the US, we don't have high schools here and we don't have debate clubs. And I personally don't care the least about US moral judgements. No one outside the US (96% of the world population) cares about US moral judgements. I still have a trauma because as a kid I was forced to watch sitcoms with only black people and sitcoms with only white people, as if there were two planets (Golden Girls was neat though, Cosby didn't age that well - it was ok to rape women but not ok to kiss someone white on TV - how fu is that). But thanks for assuming. The world doesn't revolve around you, the US is not the center of the world. I know, shocking. Get over it. I'm just happy that the days of US culture imperialism and gun-point morale exports ends and no one is forced to care about your views in the future ("But we have atomic bombs!" Yes, heard that before recently). Iraq and Afghanistan showed the emporer wears no clothes. Sad thing is I probably need to learn Chinese, when the other bully enters the stage (there is always a bully) but at least it's a change + "Wandering Earth" wasn't that bad ... Humming 51st state

mrguyorama 4y ago

What the everloving fuck is Philosophical Computer Science