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This is in line with how I was taught how to use React years ago. I'm surprised so many people are angry with these new docs. React has been such a productivity

This is in line with how I was taught how to use React years ago. I'm surprised so many people are angry with these new docs. React has been such a productivity boon for us and every time I have to work in Angular, I'm reminded of how unnecessarily complicated it is for a frontend framework. Many useEffects can be replaced with event handlers and calculated constant variables

ep103 4y ago
React is still easier to work with than angular, depending on your application, even with these issues. But these are still issues : )
- Capricorn2481 4y ago
  What issues? This is an update to the docs to reinforce best practices that have been around for a while now. People are acting like there's been sudden breaking API changes. useEffect has always been a last resort technique, and even the old docs reinforced this. People saying things like "They recommended Next.js for starter projects, so they're giving up on SPAs?" both don't understand what Next.js is and, really, just want to be angry about something. The response to this has been absurd. Dan Abramov has been active in the community and transparent about the documentation, and he has gotten direct ad hominem attacks from the same community. It's just the same story: People that feel lost using React claiming the rest of tech world is fed up with it, and it will be dead next year. I question whether they even do frontend work that much, or are really backend devs forced to do it once in a blue moon. Meanwhile every other library/framework trying to "outdo" react just falls short in so many areas. I welcome the competition, but it's clear that these aren't the members of the community that should be tastemakers for frontend design.
- willio58 4y ago
  A year ago I was applying for jobs (react jobs mostly) and got a take home project with angular. I shrugged and said why not? I stared at the angular docs for about 2 hours and emailed the recruiter saying “no thanks”. Angular is such a departure from anything I’ve used before. Meanwhile react is just simply component based and if you need things like global state you can add zustand and it all just makes sense. Angular felt like a ton of boilerplate (kinda like class-based react but so much more) and I just couldn’t imagine writing code in it daily. Later on I got a job in react with typescript and serverless functions and it’s a dream.

ep103 4y ago

React is still easier to work with than angular, depending on your application, even with these issues. But these are still issues : )

Capricorn2481 4y ago
What issues? This is an update to the docs to reinforce best practices that have been around for a while now. People are acting like there's been sudden breaking API changes. useEffect has always been a last resort technique, and even the old docs reinforced this. People saying things like "They recommended Next.js for starter projects, so they're giving up on SPAs?" both don't understand what Next.js is and, really, just want to be angry about something. The response to this has been absurd. Dan Abramov has been active in the community and transparent about the documentation, and he has gotten direct ad hominem attacks from the same community. It's just the same story: People that feel lost using React claiming the rest of tech world is fed up with it, and it will be dead next year. I question whether they even do frontend work that much, or are really backend devs forced to do it once in a blue moon. Meanwhile every other library/framework trying to "outdo" react just falls short in so many areas. I welcome the competition, but it's clear that these aren't the members of the community that should be tastemakers for frontend design.
willio58 4y ago
A year ago I was applying for jobs (react jobs mostly) and got a take home project with angular. I shrugged and said why not? I stared at the angular docs for about 2 hours and emailed the recruiter saying “no thanks”. Angular is such a departure from anything I’ve used before. Meanwhile react is just simply component based and if you need things like global state you can add zustand and it all just makes sense. Angular felt like a ton of boilerplate (kinda like class-based react but so much more) and I just couldn’t imagine writing code in it daily. Later on I got a job in react with typescript and serverless functions and it’s a dream.