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That is entirely on you if you give away your phone to those kids. I would think they would just run away with it

by bfeynman 4y ago

hoofhearted 4y ago
You’re minimizing major fraud being committed by juveniles, and it’s easy money for them lol.
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  It is not fraud, it is theft. It has nothing to do with Cash app. It could just as well be Zelle, or PayPal, or Venmo, or physical cash.
  - starkparker 4y ago
    Zelle, PayPal, and Venmo have more in place to trace or recover illegal transactions, or at least to make creating and deleting accounts to move illegally acquired money more difficult. The link's whole thesis is that Cash App doesn't really care, which is why criminals prefer it. Being so radically frictionless for the underbanked also facilitates scams, including those that distinguish between theft and fraud.
cccybernetic 4y ago
I was born outside the US and we had local gangsters that would walk up to you in the middle of the street and try to “sell” you a brick. Like a brick that you build a house or wall with. They would show it to you, and tell you that it was a great brick and that you should buy it. If you told them you didn’t want the brick, they would assure you that yes you most certainly do want the brick. You then bought the brick from them. You can probably image what the brick was used for if you refused to purchase it. I'm not familiar with this situation, but I'm assuming that whoever is doing this isn't there to "clean" your windshield, and that the entire "transaction" is imbued with the implicit threat of violence and intimidation. You're essentially being robbed through other means. If this isn't the case, then I'm happy to admit that I'm wrong, but that's how it reads to me.
- reaperducer 4y ago
  This happened to a friend of mine in Atlanta. Someone tried to sell her a rock at a traffic light. When she wouldn't buy it, they used it to smash her rear driver's side window and grab whatever they could from inside the car.
  - cal5k 4y ago
    Risky move, given that Georgia is a constitutional carry state and castle doctrine extends to occupied vehicles.
    - birdyrooster 4y ago
      Im pretty sure most guns are owned by hoarders sitting in a cabinet somewhere they aren’t likely to be in someone’s car who is ready to use it. Gun owners are a minority and they are just very enthusiastic individuals that they seem like a larger contingent than they are.
      - paisawalla 4y ago
        In 2020 this poll found 32% of Americans report owning a gun, and 44% live in a household with one. So not "most", but not insubstantial either. https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own-guns.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own...
      - imwithstoopid 4y ago
        there are over 400 million firearms in the US in the hands of an estimated 100 million individuals over two million background checks for firearms purchases are performed each month, and this number is rising, and the number of people who are being background checked for the first time is rapidly rising (fastest growing group - black women) by 2030 there will likely be a half billion firearms in the US there are more fully automatic rifles registered to individuals in Texas (40k) than are in possession of many NATO armies...for semi-auto pistols and rifles, Texas residents outgun most NATO armies by a substantial margin these are stats that both gun advocacy and opposition groups will be happy to validate (each believe the numbers support their position) anecdotally, it is very common here in Texas to read of traffic altercations in which both parties involved in road rage incidents were carrying in their vehicles...it is widespread
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dfxm12 4y ago
Yes, don't give your phone away, but it's also on CashApp if they allow large transfers with no further authentication, even if we're not talking about literal scams and you just mistakenly fat fingered an extra 0...
gessha 4y ago
Ah, yes, it’s the people who got scammed who are at fault. Everyone should always be ultra suspicious of everyone around them, no happiness or fun allowed. \s I want to live in a world where I can trust a random stranger, not suspect them of robbing me. Justifying some extra protections like a pin or a fingerprint check to finalize a transactions should not be this big of a deal.
- rowls66 4y ago
  I think that most other people would as well. Unfortunately, there are enough people willing to take advantage of that good will that you are a fool if you are not somewhat suspicious.
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- yeahsure22 4y ago
  You do live in that world. You can trust random strangers but not ones the look like “youths” in Baltimore. Use your brain to asses the risk level.
  - knodi123 4y ago
    Can you give me more detail about what physical characteristics define a "dangerous youth" in Baltimore?
    - hoofhearted 4y ago
      Ones who are under 16, but are smart enough to intentionally extort drivers on the main thoroughfare to T. Rowe Price and Legg Mason’s headquarters lol They are all actually pretty intelligent individually, and they come up with some pretty clever things to get into. A bunch of them come from rough homes, and they are usually taking the cash home to support their family, even at 15. They are supposed to be in school, but they skip to go squeege because they don’t feel like the things in school are relating to their struggle. They have tried the regular 16 year old jobs, but that doesn’t pay enough to cover their struggling mom and siblings. Instead of losing out to low wages and income taxes, they find it much easier to pick up a squeege from a gas station, and start making some instant cash in tips. These kids are super smart lol. Pressure breeds diamonds. They know how to hack the Lyme scooters and ride around and commit crimes. They know how to scam you out of your cashapp balance. And they really know how to download and build burner handgun kits from Defense Distributed :(
cornholio 4y ago
Furthermore, even if they have a bad design facilitating street thuggery, that has nothing to do with the business itself being a fraud.

That is entirely on you if you give away your phone to those kids. I would think they would just run away with it

hoofhearted 4y ago

You’re minimizing major fraud being committed by juveniles, and it’s easy money for them lol.

lotsofpulp 4y ago
It is not fraud, it is theft. It has nothing to do with Cash app. It could just as well be Zelle, or PayPal, or Venmo, or physical cash.
- starkparker 4y ago
  Zelle, PayPal, and Venmo have more in place to trace or recover illegal transactions, or at least to make creating and deleting accounts to move illegally acquired money more difficult. The link's whole thesis is that Cash App doesn't really care, which is why criminals prefer it. Being so radically frictionless for the underbanked also facilitates scams, including those that distinguish between theft and fraud.

cccybernetic 4y ago

I was born outside the US and we had local gangsters that would walk up to you in the middle of the street and try to “sell” you a brick. Like a brick that you build a house or wall with. They would show it to you, and tell you that it was a great brick and that you should buy it. If you told them you didn’t want the brick, they would assure you that yes you most certainly do want the brick. You then bought the brick from them. You can probably image what the brick was used for if you refused to purchase it. I'm not familiar with this situation, but I'm assuming that whoever is doing this isn't there to "clean" your windshield, and that the entire "transaction" is imbued with the implicit threat of violence and intimidation. You're essentially being robbed through other means. If this isn't the case, then I'm happy to admit that I'm wrong, but that's how it reads to me.

reaperducer 4y ago
This happened to a friend of mine in Atlanta. Someone tried to sell her a rock at a traffic light. When she wouldn't buy it, they used it to smash her rear driver's side window and grab whatever they could from inside the car.
- cal5k 4y ago
  Risky move, given that Georgia is a constitutional carry state and castle doctrine extends to occupied vehicles.
  - birdyrooster 4y ago
    Im pretty sure most guns are owned by hoarders sitting in a cabinet somewhere they aren’t likely to be in someone’s car who is ready to use it. Gun owners are a minority and they are just very enthusiastic individuals that they seem like a larger contingent than they are.
    - paisawalla 4y ago
      In 2020 this poll found 32% of Americans report owning a gun, and 44% live in a household with one. So not "most", but not insubstantial either. https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own-guns.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own...
    - imwithstoopid 4y ago
      there are over 400 million firearms in the US in the hands of an estimated 100 million individuals over two million background checks for firearms purchases are performed each month, and this number is rising, and the number of people who are being background checked for the first time is rapidly rising (fastest growing group - black women) by 2030 there will likely be a half billion firearms in the US there are more fully automatic rifles registered to individuals in Texas (40k) than are in possession of many NATO armies...for semi-auto pistols and rifles, Texas residents outgun most NATO armies by a substantial margin these are stats that both gun advocacy and opposition groups will be happy to validate (each believe the numbers support their position) anecdotally, it is very common here in Texas to read of traffic altercations in which both parties involved in road rage incidents were carrying in their vehicles...it is widespread

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dfxm12 4y ago

Yes, don't give your phone away, but it's also on CashApp if they allow large transfers with no further authentication, even if we're not talking about literal scams and you just mistakenly fat fingered an extra 0...

gessha 4y ago

Ah, yes, it’s the people who got scammed who are at fault. Everyone should always be ultra suspicious of everyone around them, no happiness or fun allowed. \s I want to live in a world where I can trust a random stranger, not suspect them of robbing me. Justifying some extra protections like a pin or a fingerprint check to finalize a transactions should not be this big of a deal.

rowls66 4y ago
I think that most other people would as well. Unfortunately, there are enough people willing to take advantage of that good will that you are a fool if you are not somewhat suspicious.
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yeahsure22 4y ago
You do live in that world. You can trust random strangers but not ones the look like “youths” in Baltimore. Use your brain to asses the risk level.
- knodi123 4y ago
  Can you give me more detail about what physical characteristics define a "dangerous youth" in Baltimore?
  - hoofhearted 4y ago
    Ones who are under 16, but are smart enough to intentionally extort drivers on the main thoroughfare to T. Rowe Price and Legg Mason’s headquarters lol They are all actually pretty intelligent individually, and they come up with some pretty clever things to get into. A bunch of them come from rough homes, and they are usually taking the cash home to support their family, even at 15. They are supposed to be in school, but they skip to go squeege because they don’t feel like the things in school are relating to their struggle. They have tried the regular 16 year old jobs, but that doesn’t pay enough to cover their struggling mom and siblings. Instead of losing out to low wages and income taxes, they find it much easier to pick up a squeege from a gas station, and start making some instant cash in tips. These kids are super smart lol. Pressure breeds diamonds. They know how to hack the Lyme scooters and ride around and commit crimes. They know how to scam you out of your cashapp balance. And they really know how to download and build burner handgun kits from Defense Distributed :(

cornholio 4y ago

Furthermore, even if they have a bad design facilitating street thuggery, that has nothing to do with the business itself being a fraud.