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No one discusses the elephant in the room: who elected these elites to decide what was and wasn't ethical and responsible? Nobody. So who ends up making the et
by emptysongglass 4y ago
No one discusses the elephant in the room: who elected these elites to decide what was and wasn't ethical and responsible? Nobody.
So who ends up making the ethical decisions? A group of highly privileged SV types insulated from the very real problems, concerns, and perspectives of the ordinary person.
This is just more of what humans have been doing over millennia: taking power then telling everyone else it was too dangerous for them to wield.
- paulluuk 4y agoI'm not sure this is entirely fair. Nobody elected the people who inspect nuclear powerplants either, but I still assume that they're doing a good job in protecting humanity. Even if they are possibly "highly priviledged".
- gardenhedge 4y agoI assume nuclear powerplants are regulated by some entity.
- valvar 4y agoInspecting a powerplant does not grant you any actual influence beyond powerplant inspection. Defining the ethics of AI will potentially let you influence almost all aspects of our lives.
- BurningFrog 4y agoAn AI bent on taking over the world would write posts like this.
- scotty79 4y ago> No one discusses the elephant in the room: who elected these elites to decide what was and wasn't ethical and responsible? Nobody. I'm a fan of SF. I remember nice quote from Beggers in Spain or maybe one of two subsequent books. It was something in the spirit of; "Who should control the new technology?" is the wrong question. The correct question is "Who can?". I think nobody ever truly gets to vote on their technological future or elect it.
- taneq 4y agoWho elected you to do… whatever it is you do? Probably someone hired you because they thought you’d be good at it. Or maybe you were good enough and cocky enough that you just went and did it, and sold the result. Either way I’d imagine they’re in their roles for the same reason.
- FormerBandmate 4y agoCoders are good at code. They are not good at running society, in fact they’re honestly probably worse than average
- mistermann 4y ago> This is just more of what humans have been doing over millennia: taking power then telling everyone else it was too dangerous for them to wield. Case in point (the grand performance is still underway): the banning of TikTok, for "stealing user data".
- ben_w 4y ago> who elected these elites to decide what was and wasn't ethical and responsible? Nobody First: basically every American literally voted for that by repeatedly saying no to the alternative (the communist party) in every American election. Second: what exactly and specifically are you suggesting here? Because even outside of capitalism, the alternative to "people deciding they personally don't feel it's safe to release a product they created and worked on and know more about than literally anyone else" sounds like actual literal insanity to me.
- modriano 4y agoTwo notes: 1) less than half of Americans vote in each election (less than 63% if you restrict to the voting-age population, less than 70% if you apply the scummy rules that restrict to the voting-eligible population) And 2) it's a false dichotomy to say that US elections have ever been "whatever we have now VS communism". Maybe you could say socialism was on the ballot all those times Eugene Debs ran for the presidency, but there hasn't ever been a communist on the ballot that I'm aware of. Also, it sounds like you would struggle to define communism if pressed. Regarding your second loose point, the US restricts the sale of a lot of products to the public (eg nuclear weapons, biological weapons, raw milk, copyrighted works you don't hold the copyright to, etc). Personally, I think it's pretty reasonable to restrict the sale of some things, even if the potential sellers know a lot about the product.