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I don't understand this, if pornhub and a million other porn sites can operate, why can't this one?

coldtea 4y ago
Wyre Payments, the company’s upstream payment processor, terminated SpankPay’s account because Wyre’s new payment processor, Checkout.com doesn’t allow processing for payments related to sexual businesses Pornhub and co wasn't using Wyre Payments, nor had their upstream payment processors company change recently to one that doesn't handle sexual businesses.
- INTPenis 4y ago
  Well follow the leader then. Porn has always been the biggest industry online, Onlyfans does it, pornhub does it, just follow the leaders and do it right.
  - makeitdouble 4y ago
    PornHub being in troubles times and times again (sure, some of it is 100% their fault, but not all of it) and Onlyfans trying so hard to have a foot on safer business doesn't feel inspiring. I'm really not sure there is any business doing porn money processing in a way that is safe from getting the rug pulled below them at any moment.
    - hnbad 4y ago
      Also PornHub is operated by MindGeek ($460mn revenue in 2021). It's not some niche startup. "Why can't you do it if PornHub can do it" seems disingenious at best given their parent company's market share.
  - zokier 4y ago
    > Porn has always been the biggest industry online Umm. Do you think Pornhub is bigger than Google or Amazon, or even Netflix?
    - coldtea 4y ago
      By users probably... By revenue not...
zer00eyz 4y ago
Porn is, for all intents, legal in the US. Prostitution is, for the majority of places illegal. Is a stripper a sex worker (I guess so), but they don't have to avail themselves of this sort of service in most places because their work is legal. Let's say you live in a place where gambling is illegal. Lets say that you open a blackjack and slots room in your garage. If your local bank manager finds out that the piles of cash you bring in are from an illegal source, they are likely to show you the door because they want nothing to do with you. Google around and you will find articles from the early days of medical weed, and how hard banking was for those providers! Hell this got resolved but the fact that it happened should make your eyes pop: https://ij.org/press-release/federal-government-will-return-over-1-million-seized-from-armored-car-company-in-california/ https://ij.org/press-release/federal-government-will-return-...
miohtama 4y ago
PornHub is currently operating with crypto payments on only. They were cut off from banking and cards some years ago.
- jeromegv 4y ago
  Pornhub is definitely operating with normal banking. https://help.pornhub.com/hc/en-us/articles/4419872101139-Earnings-and-Payments https://help.pornhub.com/hc/en-us/articles/4419872101139-Ear...
lmm 4y ago
> if pornhub and a million other porn sites can operate All owned by one company, and when the government (or worse, some random quango) says jump, they say how high. Content on the no-no list disappears overnight (e.g. ever wondered why you never see breathplay in online porn?).
ElfinTrousers 4y ago
I read a cartoon once of two people talking (technically, one person and one teddy bear, but that's not relevant here). Panel 1: A: So let's go over this again. If I take a woman out for drinks and dinner, hoping this will influence her decision to have sex with me, this is legal? B: Correct. Panel 2: A: But if instead of taking her out, I offer her the same amount of money in cash form to have sex with me, that's illegal? B: Correct. Panel 3: A: But if I pay a woman to have sex with me, hire a camera crew to film it, and sell the results for profit, that's legal again? B: Correct. Panel 4: A: Sorry, can we go through that one more time?
- zirgs 4y ago
  In other countries all of those are legal. Also there's a very obvious difference between the 1st one and the 2nd one. Try telling a random woman, that you matched on Tinder or whatever, that you'll pay for sex. You'd get called a disgusting pervert and blocked. Can you figure out why?

Wyre Payments, the company’s upstream payment processor, terminated SpankPay’s account because Wyre’s new payment processor, Checkout.com doesn’t allow processing for payments related to sexual businesses Pornhub and co wasn't using Wyre Payments, nor had their upstream payment processors company change recently to one that doesn't handle sexual businesses.

INTPenis 4y ago
Well follow the leader then. Porn has always been the biggest industry online, Onlyfans does it, pornhub does it, just follow the leaders and do it right.
- makeitdouble 4y ago
  PornHub being in troubles times and times again (sure, some of it is 100% their fault, but not all of it) and Onlyfans trying so hard to have a foot on safer business doesn't feel inspiring. I'm really not sure there is any business doing porn money processing in a way that is safe from getting the rug pulled below them at any moment.
  - hnbad 4y ago
    Also PornHub is operated by MindGeek ($460mn revenue in 2021). It's not some niche startup. "Why can't you do it if PornHub can do it" seems disingenious at best given their parent company's market share.
- zokier 4y ago
  > Porn has always been the biggest industry online Umm. Do you think Pornhub is bigger than Google or Amazon, or even Netflix?
  - coldtea 4y ago
    By users probably... By revenue not...

zer00eyz 4y ago

Porn is, for all intents, legal in the US. Prostitution is, for the majority of places illegal. Is a stripper a sex worker (I guess so), but they don't have to avail themselves of this sort of service in most places because their work is legal. Let's say you live in a place where gambling is illegal. Lets say that you open a blackjack and slots room in your garage. If your local bank manager finds out that the piles of cash you bring in are from an illegal source, they are likely to show you the door because they want nothing to do with you. Google around and you will find articles from the early days of medical weed, and how hard banking was for those providers! Hell this got resolved but the fact that it happened should make your eyes pop: https://ij.org/press-release/federal-government-will-return-over-1-million-seized-from-armored-car-company-in-california/ https://ij.org/press-release/federal-government-will-return-...

miohtama 4y ago

PornHub is currently operating with crypto payments on only. They were cut off from banking and cards some years ago.

jeromegv 4y ago
Pornhub is definitely operating with normal banking. https://help.pornhub.com/hc/en-us/articles/4419872101139-Earnings-and-Payments https://help.pornhub.com/hc/en-us/articles/4419872101139-Ear...

lmm 4y ago

> if pornhub and a million other porn sites can operate All owned by one company, and when the government (or worse, some random quango) says jump, they say how high. Content on the no-no list disappears overnight (e.g. ever wondered why you never see breathplay in online porn?).

ElfinTrousers 4y ago

I read a cartoon once of two people talking (technically, one person and one teddy bear, but that's not relevant here). Panel 1: A: So let's go over this again. If I take a woman out for drinks and dinner, hoping this will influence her decision to have sex with me, this is legal? B: Correct. Panel 2: A: But if instead of taking her out, I offer her the same amount of money in cash form to have sex with me, that's illegal? B: Correct. Panel 3: A: But if I pay a woman to have sex with me, hire a camera crew to film it, and sell the results for profit, that's legal again? B: Correct. Panel 4: A: Sorry, can we go through that one more time?

zirgs 4y ago
In other countries all of those are legal. Also there's a very obvious difference between the 1st one and the 2nd one. Try telling a random woman, that you matched on Tinder or whatever, that you'll pay for sex. You'd get called a disgusting pervert and blocked. Can you figure out why?