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Have you never sent a message with images just to later find out that the message wasn't sent and it wouldn't even show up on the chat so you could retry? (and

Have you never sent a message with images just to later find out that the message wasn't sent and it wouldn't even show up on the chat so you could retry? (and even more recently, messages without images suffer from this, albeit at a much less frequency) Have you never tried to join a meeting where teams made you just sit there for a minute trying to connect until you decide to restart it? Have you ever called someone at the same time as they call you, ending you with teams saying that they are calling you at the same time as you are calling them and no one can accept the call ? Have you ever tried to click on an old message from a search result, just to end up nowhere near the message? Have you never joined late to a meeting because teams didn't notify you that the meeting had started? If you have an external calendar account linked to outlook, have you never noticed that the linked calendar events don't show up in teams calendar? Have you ever clicked on a message notification, scrolled a bit up or down to a different message and have teams snap you back to the notification message for no good reason? Have you never noticed your teams status showing that you are in a meeting when you are not, even without any scheduled meeting in the calendar? Have you never had your teams randomly hanging and your fans spinning to the max for a few seconds, with teams either getting back to normal or crashing afterwords ? In a meeting, have you never had to ask the person that is sharing the screen to re-share it, because you are not seeing their screen? Also in a meeting, have you never had the issue where people's cameras and screen shares are not showing up, forcing you to rejoin the meeting to get a 50% chance of everything working properly? If not... Well... Lucky you, I guess.

hcurtiss 4y ago
But for the external calendar integration, which I think is expected behavior, really none of this has happened to me. It flakes out here and there, but so did Slack at my last employer. Guess I’m just lucky.
coffeeling 4y ago
I don't know if it's that lucky. My company is on M365 and Teams just works. Granted, we're all on Windows and the tenant is all cloud, which is the ideal case. But people here are far too quick to generalize their own bad experiences as being indicative of everyone's, and their own good experiences with eg. Zoom as being the normal case. I've been a guest to both Teams and Zoom presentations, for example, and the Teams ones have gone without a hitch but the chat in the Zoom ones was a terrible, jittery mess (the video itself was fine). Teams also yields far more cleanly to wanting to join a meeting with the web app than Zoom does - we all know the company's shenanigans on that end. For pure chat, Slack does beat Teams IME. The biggest thing is that the channels are ideally used in a more email-like fashion with dedicated topics, kind of what Doist is driving for with Twist, while Slack is just plain group chat. But overall I've had just about nothing but good experiences with Teams - mobile-desktop handoffs or just adding the phone to not drop out while you're getting coffee is smooth, it doesn't crash, calls work well, managing team tasks in Planner, barebones as it is, is really convenient, as is having team notebooks etc. (though Loop will likely take over that). As said, being a no account guest on meetings and webinars has been easy and worked well. The primary issue is just that the fucker's stupidly heavy.
- tfandango 4y ago
  I guess I'm lucky too. The only problem I ever have with teams, as the previous poster said, is that sometimes my status shows incorrectly. We are also M365 company so maybe it's about that level of support. I've not used Slack so I can't compare that, but it seems like Zoom is kind of a different product to me, for meetings only. My biggest issue now is remembering and finding a past conversation... was it a chat? Was it in a Team channel somewhere? Was it an email?

hcurtiss 4y ago

But for the external calendar integration, which I think is expected behavior, really none of this has happened to me. It flakes out here and there, but so did Slack at my last employer. Guess I’m just lucky.

coffeeling 4y ago

I don't know if it's that lucky. My company is on M365 and Teams just works. Granted, we're all on Windows and the tenant is all cloud, which is the ideal case. But people here are far too quick to generalize their own bad experiences as being indicative of everyone's, and their own good experiences with eg. Zoom as being the normal case. I've been a guest to both Teams and Zoom presentations, for example, and the Teams ones have gone without a hitch but the chat in the Zoom ones was a terrible, jittery mess (the video itself was fine). Teams also yields far more cleanly to wanting to join a meeting with the web app than Zoom does - we all know the company's shenanigans on that end. For pure chat, Slack does beat Teams IME. The biggest thing is that the channels are ideally used in a more email-like fashion with dedicated topics, kind of what Doist is driving for with Twist, while Slack is just plain group chat. But overall I've had just about nothing but good experiences with Teams - mobile-desktop handoffs or just adding the phone to not drop out while you're getting coffee is smooth, it doesn't crash, calls work well, managing team tasks in Planner, barebones as it is, is really convenient, as is having team notebooks etc. (though Loop will likely take over that). As said, being a no account guest on meetings and webinars has been easy and worked well. The primary issue is just that the fucker's stupidly heavy.

tfandango 4y ago
I guess I'm lucky too. The only problem I ever have with teams, as the previous poster said, is that sometimes my status shows incorrectly. We are also M365 company so maybe it's about that level of support. I've not used Slack so I can't compare that, but it seems like Zoom is kind of a different product to me, for meetings only. My biggest issue now is remembering and finding a past conversation... was it a chat? Was it in a Team channel somewhere? Was it an email?