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Good. I hope the commercial space crashes to $0. Need more space where people can be housed or visit places of interest. Single purpose zoning is a relic of the

by xyst 4y ago

Good. I hope the commercial space crashes to $0. Need more space where people can be housed or visit places of interest. Single purpose zoning is a relic of the 1950s suburban experiment.

tapatio 4y ago
Lol. Have you been to cities with multi-purpose zoning? Factories next to houses? It's nasty.
- closeparen 4y ago
  Yeah obviously these houses are worthless, the buildings are way too tall and there's a cafe blighting the neighborhood. https://www.girlwiththepassport.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Herengracht.png.webp https://www.girlwiththepassport.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/...
- bostik 4y ago
  Yeah, terrible places. You should visit an established one some day. Helsinki. Stockholm. Berlin. London. Amsterdam. Prague. (Oddly enough, the parts of Madrid I've seen were less mixed.) You don't have residential and heavy industries lumped next to each other. You instead get multi-use buildings with lower floors dedicated to shops and restaurants, higher floors to offices and homes. And clusters of light industry nearby. Over a period of decades, locations with somewhat heavier industry may get encroached by residential creep, eventually making their logistics hard to sustain. They move out, leaving their large facilities behind. These in turn get repurposed for lighter industrial use. The old Hartwall[×] bottling plant in Helsinki went from an active industrial site to an abandoned husk, to a repurposed site in about 25 years. [×]: Finnish soda maker
- Mashimo 4y ago
  You can mix commercial, medium, high and low density housing without it being nasty. Just because it's multi purpose, does not mean there has to be "factories"
dehrmann 4y ago
This might not work because now everyone wants an extra bedroom for a home office. If they end up going into the office once or twice per week, this could mean more space is needed.

by xyst 4y ago

Good. I hope the commercial space crashes to $0. Need more space where people can be housed or visit places of interest. Single purpose zoning is a relic of the 1950s suburban experiment.

tapatio 4y ago

Lol. Have you been to cities with multi-purpose zoning? Factories next to houses? It's nasty.

closeparen 4y ago
Yeah obviously these houses are worthless, the buildings are way too tall and there's a cafe blighting the neighborhood. https://www.girlwiththepassport.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Herengracht.png.webp https://www.girlwiththepassport.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/...
bostik 4y ago
Yeah, terrible places. You should visit an established one some day. Helsinki. Stockholm. Berlin. London. Amsterdam. Prague. (Oddly enough, the parts of Madrid I've seen were less mixed.) You don't have residential and heavy industries lumped next to each other. You instead get multi-use buildings with lower floors dedicated to shops and restaurants, higher floors to offices and homes. And clusters of light industry nearby. Over a period of decades, locations with somewhat heavier industry may get encroached by residential creep, eventually making their logistics hard to sustain. They move out, leaving their large facilities behind. These in turn get repurposed for lighter industrial use. The old Hartwall[×] bottling plant in Helsinki went from an active industrial site to an abandoned husk, to a repurposed site in about 25 years. [×]: Finnish soda maker
Mashimo 4y ago
You can mix commercial, medium, high and low density housing without it being nasty. Just because it's multi purpose, does not mean there has to be "factories"

dehrmann 4y ago

This might not work because now everyone wants an extra bedroom for a home office. If they end up going into the office once or twice per week, this could mean more space is needed.