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One would think that the areas with the least ability to pay bills (or even earn decent wages) wouldn't vote politics over livelihood... I guess belief trumps

One would think that the areas with the least ability to pay bills (or even earn decent wages) wouldn't vote politics over livelihood... I guess belief trumps reality.

t-3 4y ago
Uh, the areas with the least difficulty paying the bills don't look politically all that different than those with the most difficulty. I'd guess this is more about rapidly-rising cost-of-living in urban areas and wage stagnation than national politics.
mikewarot 4y ago
The last time I was actually looking forward to voting for my own interests was in 2016, but Debbie Wasserman Schultz conspired to rob me of that choice. There are NO good choices, the Duopoly makes sure of that!
MuffinFlavored 4y ago
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gtk40 4y ago
It's not just a red states versus blue states issue. New Mexico is squarely in the bottom and solid democratic at this point for example.
lockhouse 4y ago
Which political party is helping working class Americans pay their bills? I see my taxes going up and the benefit they provide me going down. The money machine and the national debt keep going brrrrr, so the inflation machine follows. Unchecked immigration is devaluing the labor of citizens and straining our government services. I see a two tier Justice system that is becoming increasingly politicized and the elites are seldom held accountable.
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y ago
  >Which political party is helping working class Americans pay their bills? Democrats per usual. >I see my taxes going up and the benefit they provide me going down. Anecdata. Maybe you’re not paying attention. Maybe you’re moving the goal posts. Maybe you’re right, but anecdotes don’t make an argument. >The money machine and the national debt keep going brrrrr, so the inflation machine follows. Gotta love all those tax breaks red presidents give the rich which everyone pays for. >Unchecked immigration is devaluing the labor of citizens and straining our government services. Got a citation that’s not from someone exaggerating and providing non literal commentary? >I see a two tier Justice system that is becoming increasingly politicized and the elites are seldom held accountable. You must be new here.
  - lockhouse 4y ago
    What are the Democrats doing to help me pay my bills? Higher taxes and runaway inflation fueled by overspending and excessive money printing is the opposite of helpful. It’s not just the Democrats by the way, it’s both parties over spending just on different priorities. The stimulus and pay increases I’ve seen since the pandemic have been entirely erased by inflation and taxes. If you think either party is helping the little guy you’re not paying attention. Unless you’re heavily impacted by each party’s wedge issues, there’s little practical difference between team red vs. team blue for your average working class American. What we need is a viable third party that advocates for our interests instead of those of the elites.
refurb 4y ago
You have blinders on if you think people voting for the "other party" are voting against their own interests. You may think so, but you have your own biases as to what "voting for my interests" means. They don't agree with you.

One would think that the areas with the least ability to pay bills (or even earn decent wages) wouldn't vote politics over livelihood... I guess belief trumps reality.

t-3 4y ago

Uh, the areas with the least difficulty paying the bills don't look politically all that different than those with the most difficulty. I'd guess this is more about rapidly-rising cost-of-living in urban areas and wage stagnation than national politics.

mikewarot 4y ago

The last time I was actually looking forward to voting for my own interests was in 2016, but Debbie Wasserman Schultz conspired to rob me of that choice. There are NO good choices, the Duopoly makes sure of that!

MuffinFlavored 4y ago

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gtk40 4y ago

It's not just a red states versus blue states issue. New Mexico is squarely in the bottom and solid democratic at this point for example.

lockhouse 4y ago

Which political party is helping working class Americans pay their bills? I see my taxes going up and the benefit they provide me going down. The money machine and the national debt keep going brrrrr, so the inflation machine follows. Unchecked immigration is devaluing the labor of citizens and straining our government services. I see a two tier Justice system that is becoming increasingly politicized and the elites are seldom held accountable.

Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y ago
>Which political party is helping working class Americans pay their bills? Democrats per usual. >I see my taxes going up and the benefit they provide me going down. Anecdata. Maybe you’re not paying attention. Maybe you’re moving the goal posts. Maybe you’re right, but anecdotes don’t make an argument. >The money machine and the national debt keep going brrrrr, so the inflation machine follows. Gotta love all those tax breaks red presidents give the rich which everyone pays for. >Unchecked immigration is devaluing the labor of citizens and straining our government services. Got a citation that’s not from someone exaggerating and providing non literal commentary? >I see a two tier Justice system that is becoming increasingly politicized and the elites are seldom held accountable. You must be new here.
- lockhouse 4y ago
  What are the Democrats doing to help me pay my bills? Higher taxes and runaway inflation fueled by overspending and excessive money printing is the opposite of helpful. It’s not just the Democrats by the way, it’s both parties over spending just on different priorities. The stimulus and pay increases I’ve seen since the pandemic have been entirely erased by inflation and taxes. If you think either party is helping the little guy you’re not paying attention. Unless you’re heavily impacted by each party’s wedge issues, there’s little practical difference between team red vs. team blue for your average working class American. What we need is a viable third party that advocates for our interests instead of those of the elites.

refurb 4y ago

You have blinders on if you think people voting for the "other party" are voting against their own interests. You may think so, but you have your own biases as to what "voting for my interests" means. They don't agree with you.